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No_Video6728 t1_j6h8xdn wrote

Reply to comment by Mr_Rambone in Buster Keaton, Roscoe Arbuckle, and Al St. John, 1918. Once his deadpan persona became established, Keaton avoided smiling in front of a camera. by L0st_in_the_Stars

Actually, poor ol' Fatty was accused of rape and used a wine bottle in the worst way possible. Almost everyone today says he was innocent and he wasn't convicted back in the day. However, in public opinion, he was slaughtered and distorted his reputation. (Fun fact, the details of the rape is exactly the same as what Johnny Depp was accused of and no one believed her either. )

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Mr_Rambone t1_j6h90bv wrote

Oh wow that is interesting. I had not really looked that much into it. I say it did kill his reputation. But notice with Johnny Depp everybody rallied around him.

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No_Video6728 t1_j6h9f4m wrote

Yeah. I have a friend who is really into the history of Hollywood and he said the details were nearly the same. However, I don't really know. I should look more into it before parroting things. Apparently, when Fatty was accused of rape it was during a general backlash against the rise of Hollywood in entertainment. So, a lot of people were already talking about the 'sins' of the actors and how they got away with them because of their monied-up lawyers. So, he really didn't stand a chance.

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Mr_Rambone t1_j6h9mog wrote

Oh wow that is insane. I am guessing that is career never recovered from. I had heard there was a thing about rise of Hollywood. From a article I read.

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No_Video6728 t1_j6ha9p1 wrote

Yeah, I think he could only get film jobs playing a villainous brute and then faded out. I really should look it up.

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Mr_Rambone t1_j6hagil wrote

Here a quote from Louise Brooks about his directing

"He made no attempt to direct this picture. He just sat in his director's chair like a dead man. He had been very nice and sweetly dead ever since the scandal that ruined his career. But it was such an amazing thing for me to come in to make this broken-down picture, and to find my director was the great Roscoe Arbuckle. Oh, I thought he was magnificent in films. He was a wonderful dancer—a wonderful ballroom dancer, in his heyday. It was like floating in the arms of a huge doughnut—really delightful."

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manateeshmanatee t1_j6krkpx wrote

I’m sorry, but is that a real quote, or are you fucking with us? “…floating in the arms of a huge doughnut?” Nfw.

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Block_Me_Amadeus t1_j6i5c78 wrote

Instead of speculating wildly, look it up. ;) He could only direct, and under a pseudonym. After the false accusations (supported by the lies of a totally unreliable, likely bribed witness), his name was box office poison. He died from the stress.

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No_Video6728 t1_j6ivl49 wrote

Nah. there is always someone on Reddit willing to look up something to prove you wrong. I'll leave the 'research' up to you guys.

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Mr_Rambone t1_j6hadjd wrote

I searched it up a little bit. They said after everything happen. He was banned for around a year by the motion picture board. Eventually he would direct movies under his father name. Along with owning a restaurant

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jeninchicago t1_j6ifbvq wrote

There’s a really good episode of the podcast You Must Remember This about Fatty Arbuckle. I’m pretty sure it’s in the Debunking Hollywood Babylon season.

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Sufficient-Serve6078 t1_j6jxmx0 wrote

There have been several attempts at making a Fatty Arbuckle biopic. Chris Farley was in talks to make one at the time of his death as well as a later attempt by Rob Zombie and Louie Anderson being two that I can think of off the top of my head.

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FallenFae t1_j6io2ev wrote

Except for the fact that she literally died from it after instead of just faking a bruise or two. I'm very much NOT a "believe all women" person but reading the details given and the aftermath, it seems likely that he did. I definitely think there were some embellishments on the narrative told, but I do think she either had an underlying condition, or she died of the bleeding caused by the rape.

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