kowz76 t1_iscvlvc wrote on October 15, 2022 at 12:08 AM

Climate change certainly has and will continue having an effect on the lobster industry but if you talk to any fisherman they will be far more concerned about things like whale regulations.

Your title also suggests that whatever happens in the Bering Sea will happen in the gulf of Maine. The article makes no such correlation.

combatbydesign OP t1_iscw6el wrote on October 15, 2022 at 12:12 AM

> Climate change certainly has and will continue having an effect on the lobster industry.

Literally my entire point.

> Your title also suggests that whatever happens in the Bering Sea will happen in the gulf of Maine. The article makes no such correlation.

I didn't claim the article did make any such correlation.

I probably should have made the title longer to include the actual headline (either that or Reddit should get it's mobile posting options together).

kowz76 t1_isczjg7 wrote on October 15, 2022 at 12:39 AM

Your title would suggest that the lobster stocks will meet the same fate as snow crab

combatbydesign OP t1_isczr08 wrote on October 15, 2022 at 12:41 AM

Okay? Because that's what I'm suggesting...

"The potential effects climate change has had on crab populations could be indicative of what will happen with lobster" ≠ "the article says there's a correlation between Alaska and Maine fisheries"

cepheus42 t1_iseb2pm wrote on October 15, 2022 at 9:13 AM

Yes. Are you struggling to understand the correlation here? It's pretty simple: fishing areas are changing rapidly due to climate change, and the shellfish industry is an early indicator of the growing crisis. What is happening to snow crabs could be an indicator of what will soon happen to the lobster industry.

None of this is hard to understand or incorrect. Scientists and policy makers routinely extrapolate from incomplete data to draw conclusions, and so far it's turned out the climatologists who have warned us since at LEAST the 1950's of this problem have been dead right on.

And still we do nothing. Because fuck the world, fuck us, let's let the entire food chain collapse and twist and morph disrupting our ability to feed 7 billion people even as we demand higher birth rates to create "growth" for the corporations who are dragging us into this shitty abyss. Starvation and mass deaths is in our near future, but hey... corporations don't care, that's the price we pay for "free markets" and our "free dumbs!"

GoggleField t1_isdgygb wrote on October 15, 2022 at 3:04 AM

You should do a quick Google on the rate of water temperature warming in the gulf of Maine.