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mostassuredlyafish t1_isgi6t5 wrote

My ancestors warned me against visiting New Hampshire, or, as the natives call it: the Land of Wind and Ghosts. It is the place where the dishonored dead wander, cursed to forever live out the horrors they themselves inflicted in life.

Also, their plates are a weird color.

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bluestargreentree t1_ish5c3e wrote

They're too obsessed with a rock formation that barely looked like anything, and which collapsed despite massive investment to preserve. No one like that is fun to be around and this is a whole state's worth of people

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birdmayhem t1_ishajg5 wrote

Come on now, they’re very tolerant of people who just want to live free! I mean, if you don’t the options are a little limited and not much fun, but…

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bluestargreentree t1_ishap21 wrote

Live free or die but the following things are not allowed:

  • weed

  • gambling

  • Prostitution

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birdmayhem t1_ishat9q wrote

Don’t think about that, here’s a barn full of liquor!

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mlo9109 t1_ishj4to wrote

It's a great distraction. I live in Maine but my workplace is based in NH. While I mostly work from home, when I am on-site, I stock up on cheap booze.

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AppropriatePhysics69 t1_ishhx36 wrote

I think you can definitely sports gamble in NH but not in Maine... At least on the common sports gambling apps.

EDIT: you can't legally sports bet in Maine if not in one of the two casinos.

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AppropriatePhysics69 t1_isnobhz wrote

Not sure the down votes, the internet is weird... Open the DraftKings or any gambling app on your phone right now and try to bet on a sports game. It will tell you that based on your location you can't place a bet.

Tonight when I'm in NH working, it will let me do it no problem.

Hell the PPH had an article a few weeks/month back where they interviewed a guy from Berwick who was literally driving across the border to place bets - it was the focus of the article that Maine hasn't allowed it yet despite being "legal".

I'm aware we have two casinos - would HARDLY describe either as "full size" in the casino world. They exist though, I agree.

Source: was at the Oxford Casino two weekends ago,and live here too. And frequently work in NH where I can legally sportsbet from my phone.

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bluestargreentree t1_ishiisk wrote

You may be right. It'll be legal in Maine soon*

*May be years if it takes as long as adult use weed

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AppropriatePhysics69 t1_ishn3c8 wrote

Yah I think in Maine it's legal but they are embarking on an 18 month "rule making" process... Because Maine.

I can place my sports bets on DraftKings in New Hampshire when I'm working but as soon as I get to Maine it tells me no.

Crosswise I can buy a fat bag of delicious weed in Maine but as soon as I get to New Hampshire they tell me no.

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RedMarten42 t1_isi60g9 wrote

i once heard it refered to as the 9/11 of New Hampshire, we really will use anything but metric

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Aggressive_FIamingo t1_ishfbdg wrote

Live free or die? A bit aggressive there. Don't tell me how to live my life, New Hampshire.

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soulc t1_ishdg3t wrote

And they won't get out of the left lane.

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TheBlueKing4516 t1_isig266 wrote

LIVE FREE OR DIE BITCH!…. except for marijuana we can’t do that here…

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Frirish11 t1_isq887x wrote

Last winter I got lost about 50 times in New Hampshire. I kept ending up in Concord for some reason. I did get a free iced coffee from a Dunkin in the countryside outside of Franconia Notch area, along with some directions. I still got lost. My phone battery died so I was able to charge it via a plug it the yarn section at a Walmart. Which takes forever, by the way. But now I have the yarn selection at the Concord Walmart memorized.

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Stonesword75 t1_ish5338 wrote

Not even Massachusetts.

There is so much tension between Northern and Southern Maine.

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StreakKDP t1_isha5s2 wrote

The thing that binds all Mainers - mutual and unrelenting hate of Massachusetts

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auraphauna t1_ishf0zm wrote

No no no, the ‘hate’ for Massachusetts is a sibling rivalry and resentment, not really heartfelt hatred like we have for New York or Florida

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justcharliey t1_ishlor3 wrote

The hate for Florida from any state is unmatched. 🤣

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auraphauna t1_isi35k0 wrote

Northern Florida is Dixie. Southern Florida is the Caribbean. Central Florida is property of the Disney corporation.

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feigndeaf t1_ishfnrv wrote

Florida has it's own hatred.... North FL vs South FL and East Coast vs West Coast. The panhandle, we don't even consider them Floridians.

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LockedOutOfElfland t1_ishs6m9 wrote

Lived in North Florida for a decade and then some. You mostly forget about South Florida entirely unless you're watching one of those movies or TV shows about cops shooting drug dealers (because there's a 95% chance those are in Miami), or unless you meet a student who tells you they moved for college from "around Miami".

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IanWellinghurst t1_ishmo0s wrote

Agreed. Having lived in South Florida for seven years I have a new found respect for other New Englanders and an irrational dislike of NYC and New Jersey. Sibling rivalry is the best word for it.

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NoMoLerking t1_isinarb wrote

As someone who lives part time in MA and ME - we all suck.

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eljefino t1_ishi07o wrote

I'm glad we don't have counties stamped onto our license plates.

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beerbatteredarmchair t1_isgvimb wrote

The Massachusetts hate is just to distract from the fact that so many Mainers are actually from Florida

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bluestargreentree t1_ish5i83 wrote

Including one of our gubernatorial candidates

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monsterscallinghome t1_ish72se wrote

So you know how he made headlines for "going back to bartending" after he left last time?

That was for the publicity. He actually went to work as a lobbyist.

For CMP.

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DaytonaDemon t1_isgu4jb wrote

This idiotic tribalism will be the death of us.

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CLNA11 t1_iskikfl wrote

Can someone explain why it is so intense here? I've lived in (or have strong sentimental "home" attachments) to PA, NJ, central NY, Indiana, Massachusetts, and now I live in Maine. Every other state I've lived in, people are just like "Oh, you're from x? Cool. [Insert remark about visiting there, having relatives there, a thoughtful question about it, etc.]." Here, people are so rude about not being born here, and it's so off-putting. I feel like living in other states has only made me more empathic and open-minded towards others. I understand how some of resentment comes from of being priced out of your own neighborhood, but that is happening nationwide and for far more complicated reasons than a bunch of "Massholes" moving to Maine.

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GoodDecision t1_isknbju wrote

I can tell you besides the wealthy takeover of many areas, for me it's the way they drive around here.

There are 2 groups of drivers from MA. The first group will drive slowly, sometimes down the middle line, stop in the middle of the road with no indication of what they are doing, use the wrong lanes to turn, and just generally make it nerve-wracking to be around. I call these the unintentionally oblivious.

The second group drives as fast as they can with total disregard for signalling, doing whatever the hell they want as if they are the only person on the road. Tailgate you, pass you aggressively. I call these the intentionally obnoxious.

I can only speak for myself but when I'm in an unfamiliar area you better believe I'm white-knuckling it, making sure to be in the right lane, looking for turn-only lanes, and generally trying to stay out of way of people who are local. I try my hardest to not be a pain to my fellow drivers and I guess I foolishly expect the same when they come to my town

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DaytonaDemon t1_isls7dn wrote

So..."Maine drivers good. Massachusetts drivers bad."

Atavistic nonsense — and I'm a Mainer. See also confirmation bias and selective perception.

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GoodDecision t1_isluoqj wrote

So... "It's me who is right, and everyone else who is wrong".

You hear Mainers talking about this all the time for a good reason. It doesn't come out of thin air, its observed behavior and pattern recognition (so atavistic, how low-brow of us). I know what confirmation bias and selective perception are, but thanks for the links.

I drive for a living, I'm out there all day everyday and I see it all. Not every MA driver is careless and/or rude, but after 40 years of observation some patterns do emerge. I understand they drive the way they do for a reason, I lived in Boston for 10 years. It's just how you need to drive down there, but it doesn't translate up here and its glaringly obvious to witness.

I literally just got home from work, and about an hour ago I was up at the small rotary heading from Dover to Durham NH. This rotary is tiny, I usually go about 15 miles an hour approaching and around. Its so small you really cant be going any faster than that. The car in front of me approached going about 35 mph, veered into the outside lane (two lane rotary) in front of me at the last second, no signal, no yield. They crashed into the car already going around the rotary. Everyone was ok. Guess where they were from?

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DaytonaDemon t1_ism73jb wrote

It'd be interesting to see statistics. Mainers driving in Massachusetts, "Massholes" driving in Maine. How many accidents, how many dead and wounded, per one million miles driven? Find me those numbers, and I'll concede your point if there is a large difference in favor of Maine drivers. My money's on "no meaningful difference."

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GoodDecision t1_ismjmyn wrote

> Find me those numbers

no

>I'll concede your point if there is a large difference

I don't care if you agree with me. I'm just sharing my experience.

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DaytonaDemon t1_isol0pa wrote

I just don't like your unfounded hatred for a group of others, that's all. Bigots bore me.

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GoodDecision t1_isou6bb wrote

yeah, yeah, bigot, nazi, yawn, talk about boring. Hit me with "spreading misinformation" so I can fill out the rest of my reddit bingo card.

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GoodDecision t1_ishpg5p wrote

MA doesn't even bother me at this point. The amount of NJ, NY, and CT plates in my town in October is too damn high. Do these people have lives to get back to at any point?

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andsendunits t1_isibu96 wrote

Hopefully Friday night's weather took down enough foliage to convince them peepers to head home.

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GoodDecision t1_islv5gt wrote

It didn't, but that's ok. This year is turning out to be quite a show! HAve not seen the colors this nice for a few years...

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Bywater t1_ish1x8m wrote

We were Massachusetts... Just saying.

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furrylandseal t1_ishl0r0 wrote

Massachusetts is one of our most reliable democracy defenders, and they are saving us from straight up nazi bullshit from the far right. They are an ally. Let’s not do this.

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beerbatteredarmchair t1_isj0ce3 wrote

Too late. Mainers can't stop hating on Mass. It's part of their identity.

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ggtffhhhjhg t1_isj8sv0 wrote

We’re just your rich neighbors that have hire standards and more expensive taste. As much as you love to hate on us this benefits your state.

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Odeeum t1_ish3cib wrote

I always found this to be the mentality of people that have never been out of Maine...and of those that have, never out of New England. It's just silly to think entire groups of people act a certain way because of imaginary lines on the ground.

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crookdmouth t1_ish8da5 wrote

Maine used to belong to Massachusetts. Problem is they still think it does. Old joke. :)

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mlo9109 t1_ishjcmb wrote

They think? More like it still does. Massholes have bought up all our housing and priced Mainers out of our own state.

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ggtffhhhjhg t1_isj6glz wrote

Welcome to the party. You could say the same for dozens of states. People that have been priced out of everywhere south are just migrating. Maybe this migration while help repopulate the dying towns to the north and west.

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HurtzMyBranes t1_isjdpzp wrote

It's hard to believe that the national housing crisis has entirely been driven entirely by Massholes, but it's here on Reddit so it must be true.

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TheMrNeffels t1_ish5ywd wrote

My wife and I are from Iowa and just did a road trip up through new york, Vermont, new Hampshire, and Maine then came through mass on way back

I whole heartedly agree fuck Massachusetts. Will never return.

Although I have to add y'all are lying about moose in Maine they don't exist. Never saw one and spent multiple days looking

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SeawolfGaming t1_ish6ho8 wrote

Well bub were you in Southern Maine or Northern Maine?

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TheMrNeffels t1_ish6yqv wrote

Northern. I'm just joking though unfortunately the day we got there was opening bear hunting day so bunch of hunters in trucks and with dogs ripping around. Probably scared all the wildlife off

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ScarletFire21 t1_ishqfq7 wrote

What town(s) were you in?

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TheMrNeffels t1_isi120w wrote

All around the area of moosehead lake and Baxter state park. Drove in from northern NH

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bwma t1_isj1h1q wrote

You drove on the mass pike for an hour and that made you say you'll never return?

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TheMrNeffels t1_isjpcdg wrote

Lol no we did other stuff too. Stopped on coast, went to Salem(don't recommend), and some other small stops.

We were mainly on a wildlife sight seeing trip so that's main issue. Although yeah the mass pike was super annoying because people do not know how to drive and we were almost in like 3 accidents in 30 minutes because morons were texting and not paying attention.

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Photografeels t1_isjvl60 wrote

I mean you stopped in Salem, that was your issue. Shoulda gone to Crane Beach or Plum Island especially if you were looking for wildlife

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TheMrNeffels t1_isjw1io wrote

Lol we weren't looking for wildlife in Salem. My wife wanted to stop. Not what she thought it would be though

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Photografeels t1_isjwl5b wrote

Fair enough, it’s definitely way overhyped. The Peabody Essex Museum is worth the stop though, seen a lot of great exhibits there.

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JBolduc2769 t1_ishhwbo wrote

I still know people who think that above Boston is just Canada.

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Carteeg_Struve t1_isj3lwb wrote

I know many people who think:

Inside 95 / 128 - Boston

Between 495 and 95 / 128 - Greater Boston

Outside of 495 - Here Be Dragons

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ggtffhhhjhg t1_isj8duj wrote

If you compared the sq miles of most major cities almost everything inside of of 95 would be Boston.

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HolyHand_Grenade t1_ish9t39 wrote

Mass is not almost identical, I've lived in both. Mass is horrible.

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jpGrind t1_isintpb wrote

mass is an utter shithole. a true urban nightmare. it's a rest stop at best.

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misterflappypants t1_isj5u9x wrote

As a Bostonian,

This is exactly how I picture Maine residents dressing

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800grandave t1_isig1rb wrote

spell it right. youre making maine look bad

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Famous_Quality_5931 t1_isje0go wrote

Hey now we need to all stick together against Connecticut. Don’t lose focus.

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dutchshepherdbite t1_ish1cr6 wrote

Flatlanders

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monsterscallinghome t1_ish7c57 wrote

Which, having myself been born in the shadows of Tahoma and Mt St Helens, never fails to crack me the fuck up when it's aimed in my direction.

Sorry bub, unless it's got snow on top in August it's just a hill. Mighty big hill, sure, but not a mountain.

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LifeSucksAnyway t1_ishu3w4 wrote

I guess fuck a lot of mountains near the equator then lol

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monsterscallinghome t1_isomunw wrote

I dunno, I've climbed Aconcagua in summer and there was definitely snow at the top (we didn't summit, but spent two weeks hiking & camping around the foothills & lower slopes on horseback.) I'll give you points for Guatemala, though - Volcan Fuego is definitely a mountain. Seeing the lava glowing against the stars while riding the night bus from Guatemala City to San Salvador was wild, something I'll never forget.

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LifeSucksAnyway t1_isotbmy wrote

Aconcagua is kind of cheating because it’s the highest mountain outside of Asia haha

Being serious though, I just think it’s very close minded to define a “mountain” by the residual snowpack on its summit, after all there are plenty of mountains with high elevation which A: don’t have snowpack year round and B: start at high elevation already. Topographic relief is generally the biggest factor in what makes a mountain physically large, which is why Tahoma feels so much larger than Mt. Elbert, for example, despite being slightly lower in elevation. It’s just hard for me to look at something like Katahdin and be like “ah yes, that is a hill now since the snowpack generally melts around late July, woe is me and my silly east coast rock piles”

All that being said though I’d love to travel to the PNW, I have friends who say the high elevation meadows are quite nice

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monsterscallinghome t1_isoyp2p wrote

You're very pedantic, but also correct. I was poking fun at the phrase "flatlander," after all, which is itself superfuckingsilly for each and all of the points you've just made. Katahdin is beautiful, and while I was born in the NW, I'll die in Maine where my child was born.

Do go check out the alpine meadows in the PNW, though. Just steer clear of Seattle/the popular parts of the Cascades and go straight from Sea-Tac up to the Olympic Peninsula and the Hoh National Rainforest, then hit the Okanagan Wilderness in north-central WA state by way of the ferry at Anacortes and the roads through the Cascades up near Bellingham. Way less populated and even more beautiful.

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LifeSucksAnyway t1_isp3uu2 wrote

> You're very pedantic, but also correct. I was poking fun at the phrase "flatlander," after all, which is itself superfuckingsilly for each and all of the points you've just made. Katahdin is beautiful, and while I was born in the NW, I'll die in Maine where my child was born.

Flatlander is a silly and outdated term anyway so full agree

Thanks for the recs btw, I’ll be sure to save those if I ever make it over there. Douglas Fir is an S tier tree

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Sonofabeechikeelu t1_ish2xnf wrote

Irony is a lot of Mainers are descendents of Massachusetts. IE those who fled King Philip’s war, refugees of the French Indian war, victims of the Acadian expulsion, etc. etc.

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SeawolfGaming t1_ish6kbx wrote

Irony is that Maine used to be a part of Massachusetts.

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BlueJay_NE t1_isk2yqi wrote

Maine, a lovely place to visit if you can manage to avoid the inbred deep-woods folk clutching their guns and surrounded by packs of their hunting hounds.

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ThePurgatorianAgent t1_isk6wu0 wrote

My nephew found out my older brother wasn't born in Maine, and quote, unquote "joked" about him being a monster. He's 6. That's when kids are Brutally honest from their perspective. That's why I just get Disgusted by the hate towards other states.

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ISlothyCat t1_ishlfne wrote

Just so! My street turns into MA at the bottom and those red plated massholes are always speeding on our narrow country road with lots of walking people.

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Starbuksman t1_isj3i5q wrote

Sad thing is- they own more than half the coastal homes.

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william1Bastard t1_isjsim3 wrote

How come my two friends that moved up there, keep MA as their permanent residence? Hmm...

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goPACK17 t1_isk8zoo wrote

You're welcome for all the economic simulation I guess...

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aftermarrow t1_iskfaaz wrote

nh only has a tiny strip of beach and literally every parking space will have a car with a MA plate in it.

we call them massholes.

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blounge87 t1_iskqk44 wrote

We can all agree Connecticut is the traitor here

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K8nK9s t1_issc0pj wrote

People want world peace and can't even get along with their neighbors. Life long mainer here. I have no problem with MA.

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josh_was_there t1_isj7rf8 wrote

Nice a fellow PCMer. I too am a man of culture.

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GoArmyNG t1_isjj7l5 wrote

If they would learn how to drive properly I would tolerate them more.

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pr1ap15m t1_iskqkmi wrote

let the hatred flow through you

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Cullen7777 t1_ishbjj2 wrote

if the shoe fits

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TheGrandLemonTech t1_isi8n5h wrote

Fuck PCM even harder. That subreddit is chock full of neo-nazis.

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GoodDecision t1_islvzsr wrote

"Everyone I don't agree with is a neo-nazi"

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TheGrandLemonTech t1_islxssl wrote

Never said that, but that sub is chock full of 'em.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/wcvch8/despicable_top_page_post_on_pcm_glorifying_adolf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Just one of many examples that takes a bit of surface level research

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GoodDecision t1_islzu0q wrote

and THAT subreddit is chock full o' full of terminally-online losers that get their dopamine hit by pearl-clutching and handwringing over every tiny perceived injustice against the all-knowing guardians of virtue, brigading and reporting anything on reddit they deem wrong-think.

It's a humor subreddit. They're jokes. Lighten up. And before you link me to some other horrible thing someone said on the internet (yes that particular image/joke was not cool) , I don't care. You cant control what people do, terrible people can post words online wherever they want, that's fine by me.

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MathematicianGlum880 t1_isiw7qo wrote

I was born and raised in Maine, after graduating in 1979, I moved to Mass for ten years, came back to Maine and will never ever live in Mass again. They’ve always acted like their shit don’t stink.

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Amdy_vill t1_isgtkbi wrote

The only people who don't complain about massholes are massholes. I've meet people from California who have never been here who know this. Massholes are just subhuman.

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DUBLH t1_ish20vf wrote

What are you talking about? A Masshole’s favorite pastime is to complain about other massholes

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Amdy_vill t1_ish24lo wrote

I appears I stand corrected. Everyone even massholes hate massholes 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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furrylandseal t1_ishkqwi wrote

Subhuman? Wow. That’s straight up Third Reich Trumperspeak. Massachusetts, New York, California, etc., are our most reliable defenders of democracy, and I think it’s in our best interest to not dehumanize them.

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Amdy_vill t1_ishmbl3 wrote

This was mean to come off as very hyperbolic. It's not mean to be serious hun.

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ggtffhhhjhg t1_isj96cd wrote

Those types of people are from inland California.

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jamoss14 t1_ishsiha wrote

Why do all of the trees in New York lean to the East? Because Massachusetts sucks

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