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PGids t1_jdwfj88 wrote

Reply to comment by ErnieJohn in Chipotle to pay former Augusta workers $240,000 for breaching labor laws by benpinette

The majority of people I see in here screaming about unionization don’t strike me as the type that have ever been union labor.

How do I know that? They seem to think being in a local is the silver bullet cure for everything negative they see in their current employer and fail to realize that 85% of the time, union-company negotiations move at a glacial pace and you typically achieve half of what you expect too. See: the nurses at Maine Med who’s CBA allowed them to be stripped of PTO for jury duty, bereavement and military service. Someone on the union side dropped a huge fuckin ball on that one

Being in a union absolutely does have its pros and I won’t deny that but people act like it’s sunshine and rainbows 100% of the time

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Dimmer06 t1_jdwmaem wrote

>who’s CBA allowed them to be stripped of PTO for jury duty, bereavement and military service.

This is false. The Hospital tried to take them away then gave them back (including retroactively) because it was blatantly a violation of labor law for them to take those benefits.

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PGids t1_jdwu8u8 wrote

I stand corrected; that happened about a month ago. Figured that would have made the news/social media rounds like the story of them loosing them did

They quite literally left off the CBA as a paid benefit though. There is no labor law stating any that has to be paid by a private employer; only time off given without penalty. I’m not saying it wasnt a real dick move to take those benefits, just to be clear.

This article states it was straight up forgotten. Every other article makes statements of negotiation which means a memorandum of agreement was drafted and signed which means it wasn’t on the original contract because someone fucked up

I sit in on similar meets a few times a month as a union employee, for what it’s worth.

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cepheus42 t1_jdwuaq7 wrote

And yet the union movement is growing. Why? Because government is clearly not going to do shit to protect workers, so workers are turning back to unions. Because slow progress feels better than no progress.

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PGids t1_jdwv5ie wrote

I never said it was a bad thing that people want to be in unions. I’ve been in two IAM locals and I’m in USW now.

I was trying to get at the fact that the expectations of some are waaaaay higher than they should be

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