Support Reproductive Justice in Maine this Women's History Month!

Submitted by cm-1414 t3_11twf62 in Maine

Democrats in Maine are working hard to expand reproductive rights and protect healthcare providers. Right now, abortion is legal for up to 24 weeks. After viability abortion, is legal only if the mother’s life is in danger or if the pregnancy is no longer viable. Maine’s Governor Janet Mill aims to expand abortion services after 24 weeks.

Maine is on the right path toward protecting reproductive rights for all, and they still need your help. To support Pro-Choice organizations in Maine consider making a tax-deductible donation to the following organizations:

Maine’s Women Lobby - https://www.mainewomen.org

This organization specifically focuses on passing laws that support and uphold women’s rights.

Grandmothers for Reproductive Rights - https://grandmothersforreproductiverights.org

Mabel Wadsworth Center - https://www.mabelwadsworth.org/donate/

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MKandtheforce t1_jcmg17d wrote

I'm too broke to donate, but whatever else we can do, you guys have my support!

Even if it's just balancing out the horrific, ignorant comments in this thread, good lord. I sure hope these are just out-of-state trolls because, c'mon Mainers, we're better than this.

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greenglasstree t1_jcn71t8 wrote

No one should have to donate any body part in order to keep another alive.

If Kacsmaryk bans mifepristone, which when taken in combination with misoprostol is the safest form of abortion, we should not feel compelled to follow any American law. The laws of Maine are more than enough to ensure a successful society.

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Ebomb1 t1_jcm03fc wrote

Are there specific bills this session to write legislators about?

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janetsabortedbaby t1_jcpc1u6 wrote

I now support abortion until the age of 18, lets just call them advanced fetuses

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Majestic-Feedback541 t1_jcln16w wrote

24 weeks is quite generous, I think this is fine and fair. I also think the mother being in danger afterwards is fair reasoning for a later term abortion.

Why do you guys wanna abort at such late stages unless it's necessary? (Honest question) I just don't get it. At the same time, I don't think I'd ever opt for an abortion myself, but you do you its harms me 0%

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thenamewastaken t1_jcm36s0 wrote

Sometimes mothers find out after the 24 week mark that the baby has issues incompatible with life. So if you get that horrible news, in this state it's either try to carry the pregnancy to term (maybe risking your own health) or travel to another state at great expense. Changing the law allows for Maine doctor's and the mother to make the best choice.

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Rredheadbedhead t1_jcm7icv wrote

One of my good friends found out that their baby had suffered a serious issue and was no longer going to live at just past 4 months. She was heartbroken- had a name picked out, working on a nursery, planning a shower. She had to have an abortion despite the baby being very much wanted because it was not capable of living outside of the womb. It was incredibly tough for her- I cannot imagine how much harder it would be if she had to wait to actually deliver or wait for the fetus to start making her seriously ill before getting medical health. I feel like people who oppose late term abortion do not understand much about how pregnancy works.

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Majestic-Feedback541 t1_jcmll4w wrote

Then expanding it to include medically necessary reasons (a child not surviving pregnancy, birth, or incapable of living long, or even a lifelong debilitating issue would totally be included) would be good thing.

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thenamewastaken t1_jcmzhs2 wrote

Yup, I gotta say I'm sorry you're being down voted. It seems like you asked a real question. I just want to say thank you for really asking.

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lucidlilacdream t1_jcm7rj3 wrote

It’s only ever done in extreme situations where the baby would not survive or be at considerable risk for the mother. There was a woman who had to travel out of Maine to NY to get these services because her baby didn’t have a skull. It’s a medical procedure for unfortunate things that sometimes happen in pregnancy. It’s not just cause someone is like “oh, wait, nevermind!” at that stage. If you are actually asking in good faith and not just antagonizing people.

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Competitive-Army2872 t1_jclxxdx wrote

It's about leaving the medical process and decisions between the patient and doctor. the state ought not have any input.

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TrifeDiesel- t1_jcmjh48 wrote

I think you asked and worded this question superbly. I don't think you were being malicious in any sense of the word. Hate that you were downvoted for asking why people support a certain thing.. Civil discourse should always be a priority when discussing sensitive subjects like this. Idk just my thoughts. Really not trying to upset anyone by saying that

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Majestic-Feedback541 t1_jcml58v wrote

Meh, whatever. I'm used to it. Especially when the subject is controversial.

These points mean nothing anyways so 🤷

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Ill_Athlete3019 t1_jcmp40z wrote

It’s not up to you to determine what is fine and fair. This has nothing to do with you. It’s between the pregnant person and their doctor. I say this with no animosity. It’s just none of your business.

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Majestic-Feedback541 t1_jcmprzu wrote

It's also not up to you either. And none of your business. Although, I do agree with you, it should be between a pregnant woman and her doctor.

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Flashy_Yam967 t1_jcmylkw wrote

Suppose the mom and Dr say the reason for justified abortion is mom's depression. Aborting a 7 month old life is evil. Physicians who do this work are evil and worse than pedos.

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coolcalmaesop t1_jcp4tpp wrote

>Physicians who do this work are evil and worse than pedos.

Sounds like something a pedo would say.

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Old_Description6095 t1_jcow5xz wrote

If I found out that after a 20 week fetal survey ultrasound, that my baby has severe mental retardation or physical disabilities, it could take up to a month of decision making and talking to doctors to figure out what to do. I would want to have a choice.

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Alive_Most_2028 t1_jcmaod8 wrote

You've got to be a pretty sick "doctor" to suck a baby out of it's mother's womb through a tube. We care more about a straw when it's stuck in a sea turtle's nose that when it's used to tear a baby apart limb by limb. Our society is sick and evil.

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rdewitt3468 t1_jcmbcls wrote

What a very closed-minded way of thinking about things.

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Alive_Most_2028 t1_jcmd03e wrote

Hide yourself from the reality of what these procedures actually look like. Talk about closed minded. Im all for a woman's right to choose but how far is too far? Abortion as contraception is too much for me personally. Close them legs ladies! Your value is more than a quick lay! Teach your daughters to value their purity folks.

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MKandtheforce t1_jcmfh4a wrote

"Close them legs ladies"? "Value their purity"?

The misogyny here! ☠️

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DidDunMegasploded t1_jcng095 wrote

> I'm all for a woman's right to choose

> ...but

I see we are employing the "I'm not racist, but" mentality for abortions.

Men have no right to speak on this issue. Shut your face hole, dude.

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Flashy_Yam967 t1_jcljxbi wrote

Why is killing a baby after viability when it is not threatening the mother's life a good thing? Most Americans support the right to early abortion but do not support mid to late term abortion. Abortion after viability is wrong.

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thenamewastaken t1_jclwo1o wrote

Because the baby isn't viable, but isn't threating the mother. If you made it that long in this state especially, it's a wanted pregnancy. So you go to an appointment and the doctor tells you that if your baby was to manage to survive birth than it would suffocate and die right after. The doctor recommends terminating the pregnancy but you're after the 24 week mark and they can't do anything about it. Now you get to either spend the rest of your pregnancy dealing with the fact that you are carrying a baby that will die horribly (which is pretty messed up) or if you're lucky enough you can afford to make a trip to another state. This bill would change that and allow the doctor in Maine and the patient to make that call without government interference.

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Ill_Athlete3019 t1_jcmow7j wrote

It’s really none of your business.

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Flashy_Yam967 t1_jcmxzba wrote

Mother's business to kill a 7 month old life. The life that could be delivered via c section the same day as being murdered by late term abortion because a Dr says the medical reason for abortion is mom's depression. Some people stand up for the defenseless and innocent, the ones who don't are called liberals.

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SagesseBleue t1_jcn1g6v wrote

"The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn."

-Methodist Pastor David Barnhart

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beerbatteredarmchair t1_jcp498e wrote

Because it's not a baby yet and it doesn't matter. The person it's inside of matters. The end.

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costillaultima t1_jcloaoc wrote

Expand it beyond viability? Why not just go all the way to when the water has already broken like many democrats want?

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Competitive-Army2872 t1_jclxt5y wrote

You ignorant wingnuts are barbaric.

Late-term abortion overwhelmingly only occurs when the medical situation is horrifically dire.

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greenglasstree t1_jcn6qai wrote

I think it's also ok if the parents are no longer together. I heard of a female celebrity who got pregnant, and was originally going to keep the pregnancy and raise the hypothetical child with her boyfriend together, but then he cheated on her and they broke up.

It's better to have an abortion than to raise a child in a split up family.

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costillaultima t1_jclyn7w wrote

You call us barbaric when you're killing babies? LMFAO at the level of hypocrisy.

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Emp3r0r_01 t1_jcmf121 wrote

Lol u guys are great with letting kids die in almost any other situation.

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Competitive-Army2872 t1_jcn1xg9 wrote

You're a moron.

The vast majority of abortions aren't "killing babies."

Unless of course, you believe scrambling eggs is killing chickens.

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costillaultima t1_jcn5we0 wrote

  1. The fact you have to say "the vast majority" isn't a good thing. Especially when you have democrats on camera saying they want to get pregnant just to get an abortion.

  2. That comparison doesn't work as the eggs we cook don't contain chicks. They're unfertilized. For someone calling someone else a moron you sure seem to be lacking in basic knowledge.

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Competitive-Army2872 t1_jcnxj05 wrote

A fertilized ovum isn't a human being you numbnuts. And you're categorically insane if you think people want to get pregnant just to get abortions.
And I guarantee plenty of fertilized chicken eggs get cooked, and guess what? They're not chickens.

The bottom line is that there are plenty of good reasons to get an abortion, whether medical, social, or psychological.

So, keep your medieval irrational beliefs to yourself.

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Impossible_Brief56 t1_jcptcu4 wrote

Right you'd force then to work as children then once of age, die for their country fighting in a country you can't even pronounce. Fuck off sload.

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costillaultima t1_jcqi7vo wrote

  1. Actually I'm against most wars.

  2. I don't support child labor with certain exceptions like family businesses or kids in movies.

  3. The draft hasn't happened in decades and I'd be surprised if it ever happened again even if another world War did.

  4. Sload isn't a word so not sure what you're trying to say as an insult. So how about you fuck off and learn some actual ones.

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greenglasstree t1_jcn6wrg wrote

You guys have higher obesity rates, lower rate of education. You're less likely to listen to classical music, or to have travelled abroad (being deployed in Iraq doesn't count).

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costillaultima t1_jcn7j0x wrote

So all for body positivity until you need a negative point? Also less educated? If you mean college then I hate to tell you but in many cases it's more or less useless. Also not sure what listening to classical music has to do with anything. As for traveling abroad if you're looking down on people for not doing that you're an elitist.

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greenglasstree t1_jcn7u3h wrote

I'm not a member of the body positivity movement. In fact, my views on BMI are more similar to the average person in Japan than the average progressive Westerner.

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peppapoofle4 t1_jcpp3oy wrote

This is way off topic for this post, but I wanted to comment that the body positivity movement is about acceptance of all bodies, regardless of size, shape, skin tone, gender, and physical abilities, while challenging present-day beauty standards as an undesirable social construct. While most people are capable of having a healthy body through healthy diet and exercise, there are still many people trapped in a larger body due to various conditions and illnesses. Body positivity is just a matter of accepting and respecting other humans, no matter what they look like. It’s just common decency. There are other movements out there that try to glamorize obesity and say it’s healthy, but I think it’s typical of any movement for people to twist things to the extreme.

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