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buwefy t1_j4b0fnz wrote

There is another, the pain of discipline AND regret. Sometimes you discipline in a dumb thing, sometimes you get unlucky, and then you regret wasting your life being discipleship, when your asshole friends who always just had a good time, keep having a good time, a don't even know how to do that... It's important to choose battles wisely!

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DarkFlameShadowNinja t1_j4bi3ha wrote

Exactly in life it can be anything
Sometimes even if you had the right pain of discipline it will not always end in the intended or right outcome only to end up in the pain of regret whether the pain of discipline was dumb, normal or smart cuz life is made to be this way same goes for regret
Problem with the OP quote is only between but in life it could be both or one leading to another either way what people need to realize that not every thing goes according to plan and manage expectations wisely

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IJustBeTalking t1_j4cdau5 wrote

I agree with everything you said but please use commas and periods, I feel like i’m on crack reading this

granted you did give us a single comma

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what_that_thaaang_do t1_j4bt50o wrote

That is an outcome, not a choice. Just because you picked one doesn't mean you are not guaranteed to get the other--only that you are guaranteed to get what you picked

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misterpickles69 t1_j4dxxbr wrote

I recently heard “Failure isn’t an option. It’s a requirement.” And it makes the setbacks more palatable for some reason.

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kimou001 t1_j4kj41x wrote

>I recently heard “Failure isn’t an option. It’s a requirement.” And it makes the setbacks more palatable for some reason.

yes, and : Failure is a diploma! .

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Penis_Bees t1_j4catbs wrote

That might be true but if you read this as "discipline as a general virtue" it works.

Even when it comes to things as simple as like cleaning your house, it's usually better to be disciplined than to try to catch up later.

It's a skill to work on. And doesn't work out 100% in a vacuum but works as a general concept.

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BastionNZ t1_j4cu67g wrote

It's being disciplined for targeted goals.

I.e "I'm not happy with my body/health"

You either be disciplined and eat good and go to the gym

Or choose not to be and a year later be regretful.

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tolegittoshit2 t1_j4bk481 wrote

omg that one guy who is just like smart and knows how to work everyone over and in the end things just work out for him but never for you.

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Hendlton t1_j4ceta7 wrote

It's not even that for me. It's the dumb guy who doesn't really know anything, but things work out anyway. You look a them and think "If I tried any of that, it would go wrong every step of the way."

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BastionNZ t1_j4cty1a wrote

"dumb" people often have success because they don't overthink things and just take action with confidence which is classic risk/reward.

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PootenRumble t1_j4crr8c wrote

Persistence - as long as you keep trying without giving up after failure, eventually something works. Failure is a step forward. The “dumb” may just mean a willingness to fail frequently, and that certainly will be the way to find success.

Try it with a goal to fail fast, you’ll learn from every step. And it will end up working out - if you’re persistent enough to not give up.

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tolegittoshit2 t1_j4cki3o wrote

the guy that just got a job that stated you needed a degree but he somehow got it without a degree and also makes like $30k more then you haha ya that guy

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alternaivitas t1_j4cy1qs wrote

It's called risk taking. Everything has a risk which you might or might not know in advance, but you are taking risks just by not doing anything either.

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aj9393 t1_j4dyc82 wrote

That's I why I tend toward the Stoicism view of the world.

The tl:dr version is, discipline is a virtue. Your goal should always be living according to your virtues, therefore you achieve happiness through the act of practicing discipline itself, rather than the outcome of being disciplined. The idea being that you only have control over yourself (being disciplined) but do not have control over externals (whether or not the discipline produces the desired outcome). You shouldn't weigh your happiness on externals which you can't control.

This is a pretty poor write-up to be honest, and really only scratches the surface, but it might be sufficient to get the point across.

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4444444vr t1_j4cypgd wrote

I also used to be Mormon /s

But seriously, I relate to this

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koopa72 t1_j4au1oc wrote

Don't forget back pain

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OneSidedCoin t1_j4bqg2x wrote

I’ll take the pain of regret over back and joint pain any day.

Anyone know how to stop aging?

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Blackshirts98 t1_j4c142j wrote

Peoples backs hurt because they spend decades having poor posture and poor hamstring strength. Discipline fixes this

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j592dk_91_c3w-h_d_r t1_j4b2x9n wrote

Hard work may pay off tomorrow. Procrastination always pays off today.

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TheImpossibleBanana t1_j4c4zan wrote

If we gain mental peace by putting things aside, it's actually good. Procrastination is not always a bad thing. There is a fine line between being chronically lazy and procastinating once in a while.

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QueenPlutoPlant t1_j4d2u1y wrote

I don't believe anybody is truly lazy (in the case of "lazy" being negatively associated). I think people just have yet to find the right motivation for them or are exhausted and need a break to rest, but don't recognize it and see it as being lazy.

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JustYerAverage t1_j4ax1nw wrote

There is another.

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MrDoe t1_j4cfr27 wrote

I'm currently suffering pain from a broken rib, assuming that is what you are talking about.

I have suffered the pain of discipline and regret, but neither was as concrete as a broken rib.

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the_other_irrevenant t1_j4b381o wrote

Everyone should choose to be immediately suspicious of anyone who says there are only two, highly specific, choices.

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ReinventedOne t1_j4bh98w wrote

Right. "There is one thing or the other, nothing else" is always an illusion.

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what_that_thaaang_do t1_j4bspae wrote

But that's not this. This is "between these two choices, it's one or the other," aka they are mutually exclusive (although this is not necessarily true, just the point being made in the post)

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tracksuitbrobro t1_j4b7y36 wrote

Like certainly if you were born rich this statement falls flat

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Blackshirts98 t1_j4c1b9h wrote

How? They might inherit money but without discipline and purpose they likely won’t be happy

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tracksuitbrobro t1_j4hvbha wrote

That’s not how our society works if you’re rich nice sentiment but no.

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Blackshirts98 t1_j4hwtfk wrote

I mean yea it is. Pleasure doesn’t create lasting happiness. Money makes it easier to be happier but to a point. Studies have shown after like 110k/the ability to live comfortably money brings minimal happiness

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tracksuitbrobro t1_j4hx5ee wrote

Sure but to say you need discipline for any of those tasks just to keep yourself occupied is completely false

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Blackshirts98 t1_j4hxdsl wrote

Discipline isn’t to keep yourself occupied. Discipline is necessary to achieve any long term goal, even if you have advantages like money.

Some people need less discipline to achieve things 100%

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tracksuitbrobro t1_j4hxh98 wrote

Exactly I’m saying you do not need discipline if you’re rich

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Blackshirts98 t1_j4hxlnv wrote

Well you must have not read my message. I’m saying you need discipline no matter what to succeed, but you may just need less depending on circumstances

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tracksuitbrobro t1_j4hxvws wrote

You’re right you need the discipline to not blow all your funds on stupid shit, and to care for yourself. Other then that if you’re rich it’s just for vanity purposes

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Charming_Abalone_945 t1_j4av89i wrote

Or both

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peelen t1_j4c3fft wrote

There is another: constant improvisation. ADHD gang knows what I'm talking about.

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The59Sownd t1_j4bfa06 wrote

Life essentially comes down to a battle between short-term and long-term benefits. Taking the easy way out to gain immediate gratification will often result in later consequences and often in important life areas, whereas doing the hard thing now will often pay off in big ways. There is no path without pain, so choose the pain that benefits you. Nothing worth having comes easy.

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jerryleebee t1_j4bfdu2 wrote

I needed to hear this. Also, If you want something you've never had, you'll need to do something you've never done.

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stobors t1_j4b4qft wrote

TIL my step-father was a philosopher.

His saying was: "Boy, a hard head gonna make for a soft ass and I aim to tenderize yours."

And he proceeded to do so many times over the course of my teenage years.l

It made me smarter about not getting caught.

Then I realized that if I didn't do <insert teen problem>, I didn't have to worry about being caught.

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Johnnyb777 t1_j4b6w8p wrote

My father was too..."Wish in one hand and shit in the other, see which one fills up first."

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Asisreo1 t1_j4c4mg6 wrote

The beginning of your comment sounds like the beginning of a gay porno.

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stobors t1_j4dzbyq wrote

Haha, yes, but I never called him step-daddy.

He was one of those old-school assholes that I didn't pick up the pearls of wisdom from as a hard-headed stupid teenager.

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Spoonerize_Duck_Fat t1_j4b3e60 wrote

How about half-assed discipline followed by half the amount of regret? That seems to be where I’m at most days.

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kingu_crimmsonn t1_j4cmu79 wrote

For me it's half assed discipline with double the regret knowing that I could've gotten better results if I took it more seriously or started earlier.

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Imaginary_Car3849 t1_j4b6xdc wrote

Plain wrong. The pain of grief eclipses everything.

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PlayHumankind t1_j4bbx45 wrote

This is just a way to look at life. Honestly if even one person hears this and it resonates with them and brings about positive change then it has served its purpose

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sluttyburrata t1_j4bfg7n wrote

Naah, I choose the pain au chocolat!

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Vivid-Ad-148 t1_j4bhs1j wrote

We all have to suffer. Just make yours for something important.

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std5050 t1_j4bw5p9 wrote

These tend to go hand in hand, stupid bullshit like this reminds me why I hate Reddit

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Blackshirts98 t1_j4c1u55 wrote

Literally all this is saying is that the pain of getting up, working hard, being present is less than the pain of missing opportunities and failing because of your own laziness

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[deleted] t1_j53vy8q wrote

The pain of getting up and working hard has got me nothing but missed opportunities.

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NayamAmarshe t1_j4c1yrd wrote

Discipline is not pain, discipline is the antidote to pain :)

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TrickyTreat_ t1_j4axrda wrote

My coach said this to me last night, this exact thing

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noorderling t1_j4bechx wrote

I trained really hard for a half marathon. About 3 months of building up from doing the 10 miles. Got into shape, looked forward. Then 2 days before the run: the flu. High fevers, the whole thing.

So yeah, I had both, for the same project. Oh well..

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pixelnull t1_j4beumm wrote

Pains that also exist:

  • The pain of grief.
  • The pain of existence.
  • The pain of a broken heart.
  • The pain of real pain.

There is the positive feelings of the opposite of the pains in the image too:

  • The joy of freedom from discipline
  • The freedom of not dwelling on regret
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eoliveri t1_j4e1x7q wrote

Don't forget the pain of reading bad inspirational advice.

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Antroz22 t1_j4bht1z wrote

Sir, this is a Wendy's

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TheFenn t1_j4bhzcg wrote

I have chosen.... Regret.

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I_Tory_I t1_j4bl56v wrote

Why would I put in the effort for discipline, if it's pain either way?

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N1ckp347 t1_j4bs4ml wrote

Best one I have seen in a while

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Arijan101 t1_j4c2o7e wrote

Everyone must choose one of two pains:

  1. The pain of crytical thinking and using your brain.

  2. The pain of being called out on the internet for letting shallow "motivational quotes" do the thinking for you.

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zaphod4th t1_j4c5rht wrote

must = not a good advice

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FuzzDrop t1_j4ca4ig wrote

Of the pain au chocolat

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uzOvl t1_j4cd8kk wrote

I prefer the pain au chocolat.

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MaximumEffort433 t1_j4cjh8y wrote

Me, the CEO of ADHD: "I've come here to suffer the pain of discipline and the pain of regret, and I'm all out of discipline."

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atko3314 t1_j4cw9p7 wrote

I choose the Pain au Chocolat

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[deleted] t1_j4e820r wrote

Pain of discipline

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cashewbiscuit t1_j4b6of3 wrote

Can I choose the relief of death. No? Society doesn't like it.

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DirtyJezus t1_j4bbx8k wrote

There is only pain. Live in the pain. Love the pain. We are in hell.

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MintYogi t1_j4bogo2 wrote

I appreciate a good motivational statement. This isn’t one because it’s a false dichotomy.

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Sum0sum0 t1_j4bsthh wrote

Regret works a lot faster.

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WildPIMP t1_j4bz1e2 wrote

Aka, humbly stacking sats or getting debased by central banks.

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manwhorunlikebear t1_j4c2hj9 wrote

However the pain of disciplin will get you a lot of very cool side effects

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allonzeeLV t1_j4c35m7 wrote

I regret always deferring to my discipline.

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katz332 t1_j4c56dh wrote

Discipline isn't always painful but regret always hurts.

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NebulousOinkler2099 t1_j4c6i4p wrote

I’ve learned to internalize regret. It’s the safer of the two options

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MasterMainu t1_j4c8h3l wrote

Discipline, always the discipline.... Don't want anything to do with regret.

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h3isenburg t1_j4c9tqs wrote

This is one of the better ones. Let's all fart together.

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S1GNL t1_j4cb7gr wrote

AKA Choose your hard.

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ShredGuru t1_j4cdjjs wrote

You can definitely regret missing out on things for being too disciplined

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-Vattgern- t1_j4cimp7 wrote

“Discipline” sir, reporting for duty!

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star_witness1 t1_j4cj2c7 wrote

"If you choose not to decide then you still have made a choice."

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kjvii t1_j4cjlch wrote

Broke up with a girl 7 months ago. The pain of regret is tough... please choose discipline.

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MacDougalTheLazy t1_j4cm0f8 wrote

2 million soldiers, 100 thousand functional rifles

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InternalHeartBrain t1_j4co807 wrote

"The difference is discipline ways ounces while regret waste tons"

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_cedarwood_ t1_j4cstsl wrote

Lol I get the intention, but life isn't this black and white. It can be both, it can be neither

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DennisMwendwa0 t1_j4cv8i8 wrote

This is true and remember no pain no gain!!

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Flawlezz91 t1_j4cvnv4 wrote

I chose regret apparently. fuck

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nomadProgrammer t1_j4cw94g wrote

Except billionaires. Capitalism fails all of us

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Starbourne8 t1_j4cw9rr wrote

You can also have neither. Just sayin

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asrielrising84 t1_j4cy9ta wrote

Or, now hear me out, neither. If you have very very low goals and ambitions then you will have neither.

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kevinass t1_j4cybxy wrote

Or lie on the couch and feel great

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WokeLib420 t1_j4cyvai wrote

Bitch I got allot more than two lol

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Expert-Hyena6226 t1_j4d1igr wrote

Actually, everyone will experience both at different times, and about different things. It's inevitable.

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horses_around2020 t1_j4d94z6 wrote

WOAH!!!, deep !! To the conscious & sub conscious..

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futurewolf336 t1_j4da3o7 wrote

You could also have the pain of just not having any luck. 🤷🏽‍♀️🥴

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Phyxirian t1_j4dafhy wrote

How is discipline or regret pain? Does it mean hard to deal with = pain?

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nik-cant-help-it t1_j4dc58w wrote

What an absolutely bleak narrative.

Also, an either/or argument is typical of a false dichotomy, a logical fallacy.

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Rackendoodle t1_j4dlspb wrote

Regret is such a useless and pointless emotion. Regret does nothing to change the past and it nothing to help you in the present. Instead, accept your mistake, learn from it, grow as a person, and motivate yourself to do better next time. Dwelling on the past is a waste of time.

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Cinderredditella t1_j4dm5el wrote

Well that's just rubbing salt in the wound. Literally just stepped off the scale with pain in my heart. At least I had the discipline to stay off smoking, but fuck, I hate myself right now.

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Spamton496 t1_j4dmf3f wrote

And then, there is the pain of unfreedom.

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zebrahdh t1_j4dr3i6 wrote

Jesus mental illness…

Regret nothing, fools.

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Insurdios t1_j4ds15k wrote

The pain of now or the pain of later.

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eoliveri t1_j4e1r3w wrote

So OP thinks life is nothing but different kinds of pain.

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heyredditaddict t1_j4e4new wrote

Holy crap! This is perfectly applied to trading. Thanks for posting this! This is going on my wall and will be mentioned in a future YouTube episode.

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_CMDR_ t1_j4e8kp4 wrote

Yeah gonna call false dichotomy on this one.

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Adreqi t1_j4eeglt wrote

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

Pain au chocolat all the way.

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deweywsu t1_j4eh12c wrote

This is a lie the world would have you believe. There are many other options.

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yuckysmurf t1_j4eiutb wrote

Nah…you can just practice casual moderation and be totally fine.

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WhyNotRocket t1_j4ezhmk wrote

I’d take NO regrets any day of the week. There is nothing worse when you are “Done” either by death or being stuck in a situation you can never change. For example: not trying something that you knew you were pretty good at but were too scared to fail.

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LedExcerell t1_j4f74q5 wrote

please use commas and periods

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AstronautApe t1_j4fmcpb wrote

False premise. You dont have to anything

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JaeminGlider t1_j4gb2jp wrote

Nah, I don't live with regrets. How? I keep in mind the context of who I was when I made those choices. What I did know and what I did not yet know. Regret doesn't provide support or motivation, so by reflecting on past choices with mindfulness of the context, I don't bring regret into my life.

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ComprehensiveSmell40 t1_j4jvt0m wrote

but the pain of regret stays for a few days or week or months(extreme) and then it goes , but you have to suffer the pain of discipline everyday .

not saying i choose regret

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djahaz t1_j506e5o wrote

At lease quote the man himself. Jim Rohn

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mingusdisciple t1_j4c0s37 wrote

Regret still allows me to eat a full cheese pizza just for me

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