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ringobob t1_j9ajss4 wrote

Reply to comment by mertskirp in I BROKE THE ORIGINAL CHATGPT! (not the Bing one!) by OmThepla

This is what I'm talking about: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44209141

I was off on the timing, it was only about 5 years ago. I can't find where he changed his mind about the reaction, so I may be misremembering that part, but if I am remembering correctly it was much less of a big deal in the news, I just remember reading it.

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mertskirp t1_j9aq0fp wrote

Shoulda known better than to go up there “N Wording” at a fucking Kendrick concert! He’s been pretty straightforward about that, like, his entire career.

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ringobob t1_j9aw8qy wrote

Don't bring someone on stage unless you want them to sing your lyrics.

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mertskirp t1_j9b0ynx wrote

A fine debate, i’m on the side of don’t say words you know you shouldn’t say, regardless of circumstances.

Go on stage and have a lifetime experience. No reason to make a fool out of yourself. Plenty of other words to sing along to

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ringobob t1_j9b9tp8 wrote

This is not a healthy dynamic to support. It's just a way to flip the historical power structure, so that black people have something white people are denied.

I get why it is the way it is, and I even think it's an unavoidable consequence of trying to fix the problem, which is undeniably still a problem. I have no desire to sing or say the word, which is part of the reason I don't listen to music with it in it. But the healthy end goal needs to be that the word isn't something that serves to divide us anymore. It needs to lose it's power to separate us.

And we don't reach that goal by bringing a white girl up on stage and then criticizing her for singing the song you brought her up there to sing. That makes the problem worse, not better.

This is all a tangent, not at all the point of discussing what OP did with the AI, but if you're going to insist on perpetuating structures of division as a sort of tit for tat and believe that's a healthy way to move us to a place of unity, I'm gonna tell you you're very, very wrong.

The structures of division exist, on both sides, and we can't just pretend they don't, but we don't need to applaud them, we need to see them as symptoms of an illness.

And, anticipating the response, I'm not saying this particular prohibition needs to change now, or first, or soon, or whatever. N word is off limits for white people, I'm on board, there's still a lot of issues to resolve before that one. Just don't put someone just trying to sing a song of an artist they like in a position to fail. It sets us back.

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mertskirp t1_j9bun9a wrote

Uh… i’m not looking into it that far.. Neither is anyone else.

It boils down to common sense, not some racial hierarchy or whatever you’re trying to describe (i’ma be honest i didn’t read it)

Edit; i mean this as respectfully as possible. I’m not on reddit to read race ramblings

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ringobob t1_j9bw14s wrote

So fuck off, then, if you're just gonna claim that it's a shallow issue not worth your time or attention then why engage in the tangent from the main point in the first place?

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mertskirp t1_j9aqcno wrote

Also, I remember Kendrick and Tyler toying with the idea of cancelling a tour because there was no black people in their crowds, and when the crowd would be singing their songs it would make them uncomfortable cuz they knew it was a bunch of white folks screaming the N word at them

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