Timbershoe t1_jdqfwa6 wrote on March 26, 2023 at 11:36 AM

Reply to comment by whyzantium in Taxes in A.I dominated labour market by Newhereeeeee

That is literally what I said. The Industrial Revolution lead to better working conditions (weekends off, paid holidays, sick leave).

It was not a political revolution.

Alpha3031 t1_jdqiizn wrote on March 26, 2023 at 12:06 PM

I believe what /u/whyzantium is saying is that preindustrial working patterns are sufficiently different to be incomparable (or at least difficult to compare) but arguably less onerous*, and the change you point to has a starting point that was post–industrial revolution, circa 19th century, and took a century of activism after that to achieve.

* See for example excerpt from Schor (1993).

whyzantium t1_jdqucwx wrote on March 26, 2023 at 1:58 PM

You're missing out the fact that society wasn't organised around things that made your list of remedies necessary. Peasants worked less hours before the early modern period and didn't need any of that stuff. It's like saying the COVID outbreak was good because it lead to COVID vaccines.

Timbershoe t1_jdr1ryj wrote on March 26, 2023 at 2:56 PM

Yes. Because my point wasn’t about the value of changes to working conditions, it was that working conditions changed as a result of automation.

There was no political upheaval. Systems of government didn’t change.

The OP was saying that AI would lead to a change politics. I’m sceptical it’ll even register.