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Trousered t1_j1fxsbb wrote

This video is blocked in Australia...

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DarkAvengerx t1_j1g4h7b wrote

As an Australian, I never knew about this.

And to hear its blocked wtf

Edit - Good ol Murdoch, blocking it because it's from his Foxtel show. Ugh.

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chris_p_bacon1 t1_j1gfs0h wrote

Not very fun fact, Scott Morrison's dad was the head of police in Bondi while these crimes were being constantly ignored by police.

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DarkAvengerx t1_j1gi4wh wrote

Scummo, living up to the family scummyness.

Thats pretty depressing.. None of these gay me had a chance or the community. Makes me so angry.

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ImJustSo t1_j1hsjfv wrote

It's insane. They're just men, that's the fucked up part. People just killing other normal people. Acting as if it's normal. Then others behind them also acting as if it's normal.

There is nothing different from me or another dude just because a chick gets me hard and a dude gets him hard. There's nothing different from me or another dude just because his wife gets him hard, but not me.

Because it's totally fuckin normal to be attracted to things that others aren't and vice versa. An unattractive woman is just as attractive to me as any man.

Yet if that were somehow different and I felt exactly all the same things, but for men instead, how the fuck should I deserve to die for that? IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME. I would be the same person and what would be different is the people I choose.

What a crazy fucking stupid backwards puritanical dip shit fuckin world.

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badgersprite t1_j1hciy7 wrote

People don’t believe me when I tell them this happened

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DarkAvengerx t1_j1hcmnh wrote

If it's not said in the news, then people wouldn't believe it these days..

I'm so disgusted.

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LastTrainToLondon t1_j1hxq19 wrote

There’s a tv show about it called Deep Water. It on Netflix. I’ve not seen the whole thing, but only as it was a little too close to home having grown up around the area in the 80s, & a lot to process.

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dogmom34 t1_j1g4cmq wrote

Whoa. How shameful.

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Less_Imagination_352 t1_j1gfad1 wrote

You might not be aware that there is a special commission of inquiry about this in nsw.

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dogmom34 t1_j1gftyu wrote

Ah, no. Well that's good; I hope action is taken. The victims and their families deserve it.

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SuprSaiyanTurry t1_j1hxyvy wrote

I just happen to have my VPN connected to Australia and was wondering why it wouldn't work.

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Blonde_arrbuckle t1_j1hf18w wrote

There are current trials about this so probably why. Media not allowed to prejudice potential jurors etc

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chris_p_bacon1 t1_j1gg4p6 wrote

Scott Morrison (the ex prime minister's) father was the head of the local police department that swept all this under the rug.

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dshmitty t1_j1gpnfl wrote

If I was writing this sentence it would have been a conundrum whether to put the “‘s”after Morrison or minister. And, that’s fucked up

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tomrollock t1_j1gxumc wrote

Or “Ex-prime minister Scott Morrison’s father…”

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BusterStarfish t1_j1iza2o wrote

Or, “The father of ex-Prime Minister, Scott Morrison…”

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xTwizzler t1_j1jj9eg wrote

Or “The Scott minister’s father, Ex-Morrison of Prime.”

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TootsNYC t1_j1gqsf8 wrote

(I’m pretty sure you put it after both. But the smartest move is to avoid the possessive on either)

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dshmitty t1_j1gu77i wrote

Yeah I would have wrote it as “Scott Morrison’s father (the ex prime minister) was the head of…”

Edit: I’m dumb I thought Scott Morrison was the son of the prime minister lol. So, better way to write it would be “the father of ex prime minister Scott Morrison was blah blah”

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cpt_ppppp t1_j1gv6wa wrote

would this not be saying that Scott Morrison's father was the ex prime minister?

Personally I would go with 'The father of ex-prime minister, Scott Morrison, was the head of...'

but what do I know, English be tough sometimes

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hughperman t1_j1hlnn6 wrote

Good call. In weird phrasing cases, I usually just break it into smaller sentences. "Scott Morrison is the ex-prime minister. His father was..."

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bmorejaded t1_j1gwwwk wrote

Needs commas instead of parenthesis.

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dshmitty t1_j1gx24x wrote

Yeah that works too but I was wrong, Scott Morrison was the prime minister. I don’t know shit about Australia lol

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Potential_Sherbet513 t1_j1h4qka wrote

Not true, brackets are fine there

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bmorejaded t1_j1hromv wrote

They technically work here but the information seems integral. They're overused in a lot of writing. They are most effective when adding information that isn't easily included by is necessary to understand the sentence. I'm not the only one to say this and there are a couple examples floating around.

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dshmitty t1_j1jchya wrote

When you say brackets are you referring to parentheses, these ( )? This is so confusing. In the US, these are brackets [ ] and these are parentheses ( ). But apparently in other places brackets by itself means parentheses unless specified, “square brackets” for example. I never knew that

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DatSolmyr t1_j1htr0r wrote

This is the classical example of how English' possessive S is transitioning from a word case to an enclitic, which is a small word that is not fully independant, but isn't just a part of another word: that you use it at the end of phrases (the Queen of England's funeral)

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dshmitty t1_j1in8h3 wrote

That’s really interesting! I took a linguistics course in college and it was fascinating learning stuff like that.

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nikzuko t1_j1gvbyc wrote

Both? The bit within the brackets is intended to provide more context of the person and also be a replacement if the sentence were read without the name?

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dshmitty t1_j1gvju5 wrote

I was mostly being kidding, I already said the way it probably should have been written in a different comment. Also just so you know, they are parentheses, not brackets. Brackets are these [bracket]

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ElNeneAngel t1_j1hw6iv wrote

"Bracket" covers both in English, to the extent that [ ] are even called "square brackets" and { } are called "curly brackets" (sometimes "braces").

I've now semantically satiated the word "bracket" and it all looks like gibberish. Had to double check!

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dshmitty t1_j1jai0v wrote

“Parentheses are the curved brackets "( )". They are also called round brackets, curved brackets, oval brackets, or, colloquially, parens.”

So, parentheses mean the same thing in non American English.

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dshmitty t1_j1in29g wrote

Haha yeah I getcha but that person was using parentheses, not either form of brackets. Although, maybe parentheses are called brackets in other places or something?

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Maus_Sveti t1_j1j9caq wrote

These () are called brackets in non-US English.

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dshmitty t1_j1ja1gg wrote

Ah that’s interesting. No fucking idea why I have downvotes on that lol. Damn people are sensitive as shit. They’re called parentheses in English, which is all i was saying. Not mad at u, but downvoting my comment literally makes no fucking sense lol.

Edit: “Parentheses are the curved brackets "( )". They are also called round brackets, curved brackets, oval brackets, or, colloquially, parens.”

So, parentheses is STILL correct in non-American English, it’s a more specific way of saying curved brackets.

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Maus_Sveti t1_j1jagyu wrote

Because it’s annoying to “correct” people on their English when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Edit: 🙄

“As well as signifying the overall class of punctuation, the word "bracket" is commonly used to refer to a specific form of bracket, which varies from region to region. In most English-speaking countries, an unqualified word "bracket" refers to the parenthesis (round bracket); in the United States, the square bracket.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket

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dshmitty t1_j1jajre wrote

When I don’t know what I’m talking about? They’re called fucking parentheses ya dunce. Look it up.

Literally Google it. The person even acknowledged that they meant to say parentheses.

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Maus_Sveti t1_j1jb4hv wrote

The issue isn’t that they can be called parentheses, it’s that you said using the word brackets was wrong. Which it isn’t.

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dshmitty t1_j1jbewe wrote

THE PERSON EVEN CORRECTED THEMSELF. brackets, just brackets, mean these [], apparently in non-us English ( ) can be called curved brackets. Go fucking ask somebody in a other threat what “brackets” are. Just brackets. I would bet you anything the majority of people will say []. Now I know that in other countries just “brackets” can mean parentheses. But parentheses is clearly more specific, more easily understood, and it’s what the op meant to say. As a matter of fact, go ask the fucking op if they meant brackets or parentheses.

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dshmitty t1_j1jbzyz wrote

How about this from Merriam-Webster. They use that in other countries right?

“a : one of a pair of marks [ ] used in writing and printing to enclose matter or in mathematics and logic as signs of aggregation”

This is the only relevant definition. So, people might call it that where you’re from, but its unspecific and parentheses is still a word there.

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lunettarose t1_j1hgkt1 wrote

I'd have gone with "ex-prime minister Scott Morrison's father"

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oneplusetoipi t1_j1iv04z wrote

Thread Subject: Horrifying story of mass murder

Thread Conclusion: English Grammar has some interesting rules

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WATGU t1_j1i4iou wrote

Lot of acceptable ways to do it I like this one.

The father of former prime minister, Scott Morrison, was the …

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Thewalrus515 t1_j1fzudq wrote

Long story short. It was the police.

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chris_p_bacon1 t1_j1gftm6 wrote

Scott Morrison's dad.

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Thewalrus515 t1_j1gkg3s wrote

I blame Stewart Copeland myself.

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Narrator_Ron_Howard t1_j1gmqb0 wrote

It was a Sting operation.

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subadanus t1_j1gs4kw wrote

the worst part? they all worked in synchronicity to make it happen.

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SnooCrickets6733 t1_j1gxjf4 wrote

Apparently the cops were working undercover in a liquor store / curtain shop called ‘Spirits in the Material World’

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GreatEmperorAca t1_j1h1c9g wrote

One of the perpetrators even called himself the "king of pain"

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tronaldmcdump t1_j1jilg0 wrote

Unfortunately, the victims were only able to call for help with a message in a bottle.

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SaltyDoggoMeo t1_j1fyoi7 wrote

If you’d like to know a lot more about this horrifying series of attacks and murders, watch:

Deep Water—The Real Story free on Amazon Prime.

EDIT: I apologize for previously disparaging the documentary OP posted. I’m sure it’s great.

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Sharpymarkr t1_j1fzgag wrote

Just curious, why do you like it better?

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SaltyDoggoMeo t1_j1g211m wrote

Much more in depth. Covers siblings of men killed who have tried for decades to get justice. Just all around better investigations, background, and follow up.

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phochai_sakao t1_j1fzven wrote

Free on Amazon prime really?

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Doondory t1_j1gexfl wrote

They have a handful of free docs and movies, but it's like an old TV movie where you watch a few commercials throughout it.

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ocarinaofhearts t1_j1g3030 wrote

Of course it’s blocked in Australia. I’ll have a suss if any podcasts have put out an episode about it.

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plaguechampion3 t1_j1gpmi6 wrote

Weird Shit in Australia has a great couple of episodes about them

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ocarinaofhearts t1_j1hf667 wrote

Ooh, thanks for the heads up. I haven’t had much luck, but I’ll keep hunting around. For some reason I keep thinking The Australian had something on it but could be wrong.

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thrashmanzac t1_j1gd9jr wrote

Apparently Peter Dutton used to go "gay bashing" when he was a cop.

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DarkAvengerx t1_j1ges6e wrote

How unsurprising...

And yet people think he's a better PM than Albo.

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OnAMissionFromDog t1_j1h8jky wrote

Who thinks that? Not many judging by his popularity ratings.

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DarkAvengerx t1_j1hcj8d wrote

The amount Of numpties who troll the ABC or any MSM Fb pages - you'll find quite a few there.

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NimChimspky t1_j1gu2vg wrote

Source? I believe it's possible.

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thrashmanzac t1_j1hbt9u wrote

Completely anecdotal, but years ago I used to work with a bloke that said he went to uni with a woman from his home town. She had told him it was a bit of an open secret when she was younger. Take that with a grain of salt, or a pillar, but she apparently thought it was the reason he left the police.

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theblackbeltsurfer t1_j1fydxl wrote

It’s blocked here in Australia. Anyone got a non YouTube link?

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MustFixWhatIsBroken t1_j1g2cqk wrote

Look up "YouTube proxy" if you don't have a VPN.

Be sure to share with your community.

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Marcos340 t1_j1g0l8i wrote

Even with a VPN? There are some free one that you can try

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NineOutOfTenExperts t1_j1gxv99 wrote

Free VPNs cost in privacy

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Marcos340 t1_j1hou5l wrote

Some have free trials with 1-10Gb, and for watching a video it doesn’t matter.

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Still_Rub t1_j1ik9xa wrote

Imagine clutching your pearls over privacy while being too cheap to actually pay the companies that provide VPNs and protect internet privacy. You entitled brat.

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NineOutOfTenExperts t1_j1jvw52 wrote

Imagine getting annoyed about a narrative you created while being too hasty to comprehend a comment. You reactive twat.

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HoboMoo t1_j1gcz55 wrote

Proton VPN has been working good for me

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Bigdj2323 t1_j1fhqt0 wrote

This is a very sad story.

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Less_Imagination_352 t1_j1gf7ng wrote

There is currently a special commission of inquiry into this. Inquiry web page

The Commissioner had a duty to make a report or reports to the Governor as to whether there is or was any evidence or sufficient evidence to warrant prosecuting a specified person for a specified offence.

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Red5point1 t1_j1go18o wrote

Saw the whole thing, I did not see where they identify any sports stars as potential culprits. Got any other links to that OP?

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DeepCompote t1_j1hxehn wrote

I was wondering the same. Didn’t mention that at all.

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ALLCAPS1980 t1_j1ghfjs wrote

The 30-90 part is a huge spread … ?

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_stoneslayer_ t1_j1h3cna wrote

Whether 30 or 90 people were killed at one beach over ten years, I'd probably just stay away, personally.

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cannotfoolowls t1_j1i04qr wrote

Not even murder can keep people away from Bondi Beach. It's probably the most popular beach in Australia.

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gheeboy t1_j1hxes2 wrote

This is important and I'm happy it's getting attention

It wasn't just Sydney. It was everywhere. People would do this on weekends for fun

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nopp t1_j1ggkup wrote

It’s also available for free in australia on 7plus. My quick google says so. Must have been co produced so on foxtel first.

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chefanubis t1_j1hhy2k wrote

Wow I used to be a fan of Jean Claud Van Dame but I don't think I can condone this.

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richants t1_j1ido59 wrote

Spent a few years in and around Bondi during this time and never even knew about this. We were aware of some groups coming from innerwest that came to Bondi to fight and cause trouble but nothing about gay bashings or murder.

Remember reading somewhere that the cops involved were from kings cross

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Promattic t1_j1ig74v wrote

What happens in the Kumite stays in the Kumite

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Ryan_enO t1_j1h88fx wrote

The next Justin Kurzel film?

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sayabi t1_j1l4wpt wrote

What do you mean? I am talking about the detective who solved these murders.

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HelenEk7 t1_j1h6w1b wrote

I started watching it, and it seems to focus on just one guy? They might cover the rest if I watch further, but the documentary is a bit slow..

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xAyjay18 t1_j1hbumf wrote

Melbourne better

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Alex_DK t1_j1iodr7 wrote

Australia is such a shithole place fr.

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BloodSteyn t1_j1hh9y8 wrote

Imagine that... a bunch of murders committed on a penal colony, whowouldathunk? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But in seriousness, that's scary shit.

Edit: You guys can't take a joke.

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sayabi t1_j1hcz41 wrote

[ Removed by Reddit ]

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Jeffreybugist t1_j1hic8i wrote

I wore one, when banging your dad. He said he likes it.

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VuurniacSquarewave t1_j1hofdr wrote

You likey Putin and some Xi Jinping cock don't you

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RockinIntoMordor t1_j1jbp4h wrote

Please don't use homophobic jokes when trying to condemn others for their homophobic comments.

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Sabiancym t1_j1igq2e wrote

That's gotta be enough to be banned from all of reddit. I'm sure we'll be seeing this guy on the news for a hate crime in no time.

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sayqm t1_j1iqoyw wrote

Would be surprised if she get any ban sadly...

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[deleted] t1_j1ghwhf wrote

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abbotist-posadist t1_j1hat92 wrote

“sins of the father” making a heavy appearance ITT

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brezhnervous t1_j1hor4u wrote

Our first police force (The Rum Corps, as they controlled the rum trade which was used as currency in the colony) was made up of some of the better behaved convicts.

And little has changed lol

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Neither-Cup564 t1_j1i8rf5 wrote

They’re just sanctioned thugs set up by the rich and powerful to protect their interests and maintain the status quo, its the same around the world.

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