Sevulturus t1_jd5bhbt wrote on March 21, 2023 at 10:58 PM

Reply to comment by tsunamisurfer in Why should wires not be twisted before putting in wire nut? by dhekurbaba

Backstabs definitely are. Not all "wagos" are created equal. So you need to be careful with them.

tsunamisurfer t1_jd5patj wrote on March 22, 2023 at 12:36 AM

I mentioned specifically that it was convenient when you don’t backstab ( I assume that is when you don’t wind it around the nut?).

What kind of wagons are a hazard? I’ve seen electricians who recommend them

Sevulturus t1_jd5w673 wrote on March 22, 2023 at 1:27 AM

I don't trust the non-levered ones that come with cheap fixtures specifically. Overall, I don't like them on anything that moves. I hate backstabs as a rule, or anything that relies on spring pressure to hold.

tsunamisurfer t1_jd660zp wrote on March 22, 2023 at 2:42 AM

Oh for sure. I didn't realize Wago sold the backstab-type wire nuts. I agree the backstab type are less stable. My recessed lights came with one of those cheap backstab nuts and it definitely didn't hold the wire as well. I've pulled quite hard on a levered wire nut and it didn't budge, so i feel pretty good about those ones.