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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j9j9778 wrote

After seeing my electric bill every month, I will not be considering an electric vehicle anytime soon

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Educated_Eel t1_j9mr22d wrote

still less than the cost of gas

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j9mrfdb wrote

It costs $240 a month to fill both of our SUV’s. Oil to heat my 2 bedroom house is $500+ and electricity is around $120. What are you smoking?

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Educated_Eel t1_j9mrz83 wrote

it is less money to charge your car than spend money on gas. even in CT. the barrier is the high cost (MSRP) of an electric car.

most people are too ashamed to say “i can’t afford it” so they turn it into “i’m not stupid enough to pay more for fueling!!” which is not true.

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alienwarezftw t1_j9ltem0 wrote

This is my reason as well also the incompatibility and disaster that is our charging network. I don't think in a capitalistic government that will be solved let alone the time it takes to charge should be 5-10 mins max. There is no way this will be sustainable especially in this market or economy for the foreseeable future.

Imagine telling your boss its going to be 45 mins till I get to work to charge my car you think that excuse is going to fly lol.

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Educated_Eel t1_j9mr09a wrote

you charge at home for day to day stuff like going to work bud

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CarrotsNotCake t1_j9i30r1 wrote

Let's say it costs 10% more to travel in an EV.
Let's say 30 miles per gallon at a cost of $3.30 per gallon. Stick to the average of 15,000 miles travels a year.
That's $1,650 for gasoline each year. 1,815. Ah, but then there's oil changed. fifty bucks three times a year. 1,800 for gasoline. Ah, damn, faster brake wearing, so there's an added expense. Crap! Transmission fluid & filter!
The list of maintenance costs with gasoline vehicles is long.
The list of maintenance costs with EVs is short.
Not only is it less money, it's more time for the owner to spend dealing with literally anything else.
But let's look at a comparison from the calculator. 2023 Bolt & 2023 Civic.

https://ibb.co/Wnj8fYz
Buying a new vehicle, each one costing the same, an EV costs less to own. That's just a fact.
https://afdc.energy.gov/calc/

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HughWonPDL2018 t1_j9icwbb wrote

This country has crap infrastructure for EVs, their batteries don’t last for really long drives, and most importantly, the “assumptions” tab in that link states that they don’t factor in the cost of a replacement battery at all. A quick googling for a Chevy Bolt (your choice) has the average cost to replace at 16000 (wtf!), which if you’re replacing it at year 10 or so, is a tough cost to put up with at that point in a car’s lifespan. You’re buying a new car at that point. That 1600 in gas money per year, after 10 years, is the same as a Chevy Bolt battery, so it’s pretty close to neutral on fuel/energy costs.

Complaining about replacing a filter for gas cars but ignoring that your source doesn’t include battery replacement costs for EVs is just a little ridiculous.

Bolt battery pricing, along with other comps. https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/costs-ev-battery-replacement

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dumbthrow33 t1_j9j8jua wrote

Don’t forget, you can always resell that gas car after 10 years with little to no hassle… much harder to sell a 10 year old EV with what is essentially a blown motor (e.g. batt replacement) looming.

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mynameisnotshamus OP t1_j9jomjn wrote

Tesla batteries are expected to last 300-500,000 miles. Just about any car at around 200k mikes has depreciated severely and is likely facing some major repairs. I’d call this close to a wash. That being said, long trips with an EV are more of an experience- you’re not getting there as quickly and will need to enjoy some parking lots. EVs are not quite a full replacement for many.

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Humbabwe t1_j9l882r wrote

If I had the money, I’d get a Bolt. I have solar panels that produce way more than I use and Chevy will install a charging station with purchase.

I know that’s just me, but that’s the path I’m attempting to walk (drive).

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AvogadrosMoleSauce t1_j9hy3dl wrote

With luck gas prices will rise again. There's also the CHEAPR rebates and, depending on where you go, you may have opportunities to charge for free. Of course, bicycles remain cheaper and infinitely more efficient.

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