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Dale_Wardark t1_j90y8ml wrote

No it shouldn't be. Many weapons, especially antique ones, are valuable. A list of weapons and who owns them would make them targets for thieves. On top of that, it's nobodies business. My Uncle, an avid gun supporter and user, has a wonderful, well kept home in a quiet neighborhood and you'd never know he has guns unless you went into his basement and saw the gun safe. 95 percent or more of gun owners are like this.

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AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j910phr wrote

The question was whether the person has a permit, not a list of what they have in their home.

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1234nameuser t1_j915rdh wrote

95 percent of gun owners are upper middle class?

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Dale_Wardark t1_j916sjy wrote

I can see how my phrasing could come off like that. I more meant that most legal gun owners are also responsible ones.

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ZebraRaptor t1_j91gfrz wrote

Nearly have to be with the insanely expensive process to get your permit in this state. I have no problem with paperwork and background checks, safety class, and fingerprints, but between the cost of all of them it ends up being more than some guns themselves! Really hurts the not so well off and keeps them from being able to exercise their constitutional right.

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AdHistorical7107 OP t1_j90yqj8 wrote

What if they make it extremely hard to get that info. I.e - don't publish online. Have an individual do something like a FOI request and provide a very good reason for wanting that info. Have the bar set high on reasons why it should be disclosed.

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Boring_Garbage3476 t1_j923vxg wrote

So what would you do with this information if you got it? Ok, so your crazy neighbor (in your opinion) has a permit. Now what? It's useless information to you since you can't do anything, anyway.

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AdHistorical7107 OP t1_j928fnn wrote

Read through. You may think it's boring garbage but I answered that.

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Boring_Garbage3476 t1_j928w6w wrote

I've read. There is nothing you would be able to do even if you had the information you desire.

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AdHistorical7107 OP t1_j9292q0 wrote

Then you missed my response of using the information to determine if my kid should go there and/or how I would handle another outburst....

Read harder ;).

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Boring_Garbage3476 t1_j929a9o wrote

Well, best of luck with all that.

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AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j92jgs5 wrote

Just thinking of all those parents I hear about every year whose kid goes over to someone else's house and then has to face the catastrophe of learning their kid was let by some other dumbfuck parent to play with a gun and is now dead.

Just happened the other day in Florida, a three year old shot himself in the face.

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Dale_Wardark t1_j90zibz wrote

I think if it's escalated to the point where police or government entities need to be involved anyway, there's a deeper issue where the subject may have come up anyway. Personally, if I was being erratic and had a gun, I'd hope that the police would inform those around me that I was erratic and owned a gun. As far as I know, there's no privacy law that prevents that from happening. We live in an age where privacy is becoming an increasingly rare commodity whether we like it or not, trust is the same way. Obviously, if you have a neighbor acting dangerously, that's a problem and concern is wise, but holding everyone to the same strict rules is, in my humble opinion, a bad idea.

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AdHistorical7107 OP t1_j90zolk wrote

According to the police department, they aren't allowed to disclose that information. But the officer could be wrong.

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404freedom14liberty t1_j912fek wrote

The fact whether she has a permit doesn’t answer whether she has firearms or not. I’m not sure how this information would help you. If she’s a danger to you or herself the police/her family/probate court need to be involved.

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AdHistorical7107 OP t1_j912wjb wrote

OK, but pardon my ignorance here. Why would someone get a permit without an intention of buying a firearm? If you get a permit, and you are later diagnosed with a mental illness, are you required by law to notify someone (law enforcement, atf, fbi)?

I dont have one, so genuinely curious with all of this.

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404freedom14liberty t1_j918elq wrote

I guess I was thinking she may have already had them.

This is why I suggested it would be necessary to get the police, etc involved. She can be conserved which would get the firearms out of her possession if she’s a danger. Permits are revoked in that situation.

Up until relatively recently one didn’t need a permit to purchase guns. There were some controls but you could have purchased a firearm at a tag sale.

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AdHistorical7107 OP t1_j91ayl7 wrote

Police have been involved twice already. So I know they are aware of her, and probably if she is in possession of a permit/weapon.

But your input is appreciated.

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