Submitted by AdHistorical7107 t3_yenk2q in Connecticut
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_itznltx wrote
He sent harassing phone calls and text messages to a woman who had a restraining order against him and he pushed a woman up against a wall. Yes he should be prosecuted for these acts but apparently some people believe that we should lock this guy up and throw away the key? Jesus fucking Christ
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzorai wrote
This was the third time.
Or do you want to wait until the victim dies or is seriously hurt next time?
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_itzpnmb wrote
I know it’s terrible what he did and no I don’t condone it but in order to live in a free society we can’t hold people indefinitely without bail for pushing someone up against the wall. It sucks but it’s one of those things that comes along with freedom. The minute we start presuming people guilty instead of innocent is the minute we become authoritarian. The justice system is not perfect but if we don’t allow it to work as intended the consequences are catastrophic
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzpx58 wrote
He has repeatedly harassed this victim. Since 2018.
What more do you want? It's called recidivism.
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu04pm8 wrote
Why wasn’t he convicted of harassing the victim? Why did the victim obtain a protective order and not a restraining order? The answers to these two questions are that there was not enough evidence to support doing so, yet you want this guy buried under the prison. There are countries that operate their justice system in that fashion and they are not pleasant places to live
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu05opx wrote
After violating the protective orders three times, you're not seeing an issue here?
Ok.....
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu0ihtu wrote
I can only go by the information I have and from this poorly written article I see that in the past he’s been arrested for violating a protective order but I don’t see where he was convicted of violating a protective order, so I don’t know if he actually ever did violate a protective order, I only know that someone accused him of doing so. And again, going by the information that I have, I believe that he should be arrested, which he was, and I believe that he should be brought in front of a judge, which he will be. I guess where you and me have a difference of opinion is that I don’t believe that we should skip past his right to due process and imprison him for an indefinite period of time before he’s had a chance to mount a defense. I don’t care if the man is accused of molesting children while kicking kittens and stealing from the poor, if you deny that person’s right to due process then you no longer live in a free country. That’s a hard no from me
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0jpyx wrote
Look up Neil S Bhatia on Google. You will see the string of arrests he had, starting in 2018. You can search the court records if you choose (I did), but its quite confusing between his conviction of violating a protective order, and the slew of pending cases he has against him.
I have the day off, so I searched this. But dont just take it from me. Here is a link to the court website (you may need to input his name):
https://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/parm1.aspx
I am all for due process. its our right. But I am also a firm believer that if you violate the laws (depending on the severity), we need to be careful to allow you a third try.
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu0liwf wrote
I checked his court records and I see zero convictions for violating a protective order so it is factually incorrect to say that this person violated a protective order three times. I cannot tell you how catastrophic it would be for our society if we started treating arrests as convictions
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0m7xl wrote
Hmm.... violating a condition of release.... arrest date July 18, 2018, and judging by the articles, that was incident where they arrested him for sending harassing messages to the victim. All kinda makes sense to me.....
But you do you. I can put two and two together....
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu0nsqc wrote
I love how you’re trying to gaslight me into believing that I’m defending the guy just because I refuse to convict him off of a newspaper article. You and people who share your thought process are the reason why innocent men are in prison
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0oeyc wrote
Gaslight how?
I am sharing the information with you of this gentleman's history. I respect you may be busy. I respect you want to give him due dilligence. If, after providing you with all there is, you still don't see what's wrong here, that's fine.
I am not the reason why innocent men are in person. I am just trying to avoid another tragedy based on ones repeat offenses against protective orders, and their history of domestic abuse. Both of which this gentleman has clearly demonstrated based solely on actions.
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu11ra8 wrote
You’re not judging the man’s actions, you’re jumping to conclusions about what his actions were. He was arrested for violating a protective order and the case was adjudicated and a conviction was never secured. That means that this man never violated a protective order. But you keep repeating that he’s violated a protective order three times. You choose to believe that someone is guilty of a crime because they were arrested for it even after the charges were dropped in a court of law, it’s preposterous. This is exactly how innocent men go to jail, people like you sit on a jury and disregard all of the evidence thinking that the police would never arrest the wrong man
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu13wc4 wrote
Wow you really can't read that stuff huh. It says clearly under his convictions. But you want to defend him. Police arresting the wrong man? Wow. Lol. Omg im laughing really hard right now reading this lol. Seriously stop roflmao. Too damn funny
Keep defending a bad guy lol. Go ahead....
Roflmao, arrest the wrong man who was clearly with his victim when police showed up lol. Omfg....
I'm rolling....
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu18lf7 wrote
So we’re back to the gaslighting?
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu1a2z7 wrote
You're cracking me up! Stop it lol. Roflmao. Hahahaha
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0nran wrote
Also, here is what happened in CA.
1 year of anger management. Domestic abuse charge. Recidivism is real here:
https://drblookupportal.judiciary.state.nj.us/DocumentHandler.ashx?document_id=1099392
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu12f7w wrote
He was convicted of misdemeanor battery for hitting his wife in the face with a loaf of bread. Take this guy out back and shoot him already 🙄
Best-Raise-2523 t1_itzoo7n wrote
Yea if you read closely I wonder if he was ever found guilty of those things. It’s not difficult to take out a protective order against someone.
This screams custody battle where both parents acting shitty.
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_itzqiql wrote
You make a great point that I missed, I thought he violated a restraining order and not a protective order. There’s a lot in this case that indicates a “he said, she said“ situation. I’m not saying it is and the guy is probably guilty but trying to hold this guy without bail is preposterous
Best-Raise-2523 t1_itztebe wrote
Yea think about it. Lady can’t get full custody so she gets a protective order. He calls “gimme the kids because it’s my turn” in a mr angry eyes voice and all of a sudden an infantry unit shows up at his house to throw him in jail.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzyihl wrote
Ok. Both very good points. He was found guilty in 2020 of violation of condition of release. He was sentenced to jail for 1 year (but execution suspended).
He also had a protective order in California.
Tbh. The ct system is kinda screwy. He also seems to have pending cases too from an incident in 2020....
Point is, it seems to be repetitive and potentially a bigger issue. Imo, any level headed dude will not be going through this nonsense. Courts come in and settle this crap. Unless you tell me there's an issue with family courts (which wouldn't surprise me).
I'm just having flashbacks to Jennifer dulos...
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