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Exciting-Rub-6006 t1_j892nyl wrote

I live in a townhouse in Owen brown … the apartment people throw thrash everywhere smoke blunts out in the open pit shopping carts everywhere

Currently I got a used condom wrapper next to my parking spot

Can’t wait to move to a single family home neighborhood and not deal with this shit.

Moved from baltimore city to get away from broken glass and wanna be assholes

There’s little actual crime here, my kid plays in tbe neighborhood etc

But the trash from trash ass people is non stop

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BeatNutz57 t1_j8aqbas wrote

I live in a six-unit condo and we have two "owners" who only rent out to Section 8 tenants. They've made our lives a living hell and I really wish I would've rethought buying here. The latest ones only moved in this December and since then we've had: trash and half-eaten food thrown in the stairwells, music loud enough to shake the entire building, laundry left in machines over the weekend, and blunt/weed smells coursing through our vents. Call and complaints to our HOA fall on deaf ears, so we're just forced to endure it until they get evicted.

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macaroonmedical1131 t1_j8e2slb wrote

Thank you. Owen Brown is a great example of trashy people bringing down a place that was supposed to be a "utopia." Columbia is just another place where working class meets entitled class anymore.

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Exciting-Rub-6006 t1_j8bb081 wrote

Nothing subtle about it but I was way too broad brush as well

Renters of 1400 sq foot apartment vs owner 1400 sq foot town house 100 yards away

Canabalism more than capitalism as were both in the same damn class unfortunately

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Windtank12 t1_j8bb7h9 wrote

You are the problem.

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Exciting-Rub-6006 t1_j8bjtsz wrote

I may have been over expressive

But I honesty and genuinely ask you to explain why I’m the problem?

The littering is out of control

This isn’t baltimore

I love baltimore but fuck baltimore

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corranhorn6565 t1_j88h0aj wrote

I would love to see a breakdown of home ownership by age. There are a lot of older folks who own single family homes... over the next 10 years I expect that to change. Also would like to know which portion of homes are rented vs owned.

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AKnitWit777 t1_j88k9zy wrote

Very true. Many of the 70's-built homes in the older villages are still occupied by their original owners.

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corranhorn6565 t1_j88m345 wrote

Exactly. 4 or 5 of the 9 houses on my court are original owners

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veryfirst t1_j89dc11 wrote

Columbia was founded as a whole community, a giant experiment where the investment was toward all types of homes, all types of people, all living in a brand new more idyllic place. The return on investment model at that time was dramatically more community focused than today.

Modern housing developments look at the construction of building x, the income it will bring in to the developer and the breakeven numbers. With the new business model for additional housing units there is no motivation to build the way the first townhouses were built, the first subsidized units were built, single family homes were built etc. Diversity of income and background become almost irrelevant in the design and economic choices of the housing being constructed. The only way that these types of communities can grow with the original thinking in mind is with mandates from the county, especially with new larger developments. Income subsidized units MUST be required with every single new apartment building or condo development. No waiver should be allowed for building any apartment buildings like they have been in places like 'The Marlow' or the apartments by the mall.

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telmar25 t1_j8l9upn wrote

I agree with your intentions but not the mechanism. New apartments are generally going to be expensive because they’re new and automatically more desirable than similar-sized existing housing stock. Income subsidized units in buildings like the Marlow and Juniper are actually pretty laughable solutions to affordable housing. They’re always outrageously expensive for people who actually meet the income limits, and there is always some tiny number of affordable units allocated to check a box. A much better solution for affordable housing is simply to let builders build more and denser housing. And Marlow and Juniper are examples of builders doing exactly that. Even if they stay top end for a while, their construction will increase supply and lower the prices of the rest of the apartment housing stock. Meanwhile many neighborhoods in Columbia fight hard against this kind of dense construction even though it was Rouse’s vision to mix more dense and less dense housing together. Generally it’s all these building restrictions that have pushed up prices to ridiculous levels—for the most extreme examples, see Silicon Valley.

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telmar25 t1_j8eaowm wrote

I live in River Hill, and I do think that community at least is more segregated than others. It has far fewer apartments/condos/townhomes than other communities, and the ones they do have are expensive. While it is diverse in a way, it has relatively few Black households. The last village newsletter I got led with a clearly NIMBY article, backed by all the River Hill leaders, fear-mongering that Howard County’s plans might cause more density or more people to move in (and making what seemed like a bunch of false assertions to support their position). To me, all of this is the opposite of what Jim Rouse wanted… vibrant communities that mixed rich and poor, black and white, apartments and SFHs. Unfortunately once in place, people start prioritizing keeping home values up by keeping other people and new construction out. Made me think, if all the River Hill leaders really want is to live in Clarksville, why didn’t they just move there and save the HOA fees?

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opiusmaximus2 t1_j8qyyia wrote

Poor people of any color aren't moving to Clarksville or River Hill. Everyone of my parents neighbors are doctors or better in terms of salary off Folly Quarter Rd. There's also going to be no affordable housing built anytime soon.

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telmar25 t1_j8rhapr wrote

Sure, but why is that? Virtually the only homes in River Hill are large SFHs that are at least 20 years newer than most of the rest of Columbia. Plus a small pocket of condos and townhomes near the village center. The housing mix and zoning are first and foremost what causes this. Clarksville is going to do whatever since they are much more hands off, but River Hill is a village in Columbia that doesn’t really abide by Columbia values.

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hoodreview t1_j911emi wrote

I’ve been in Columbia since 1991 and even earlier 80s coming to visit. Columbia was a place where all incomes and all races lived together. Now it’s showing signs of huge wealth gaps which is showing and drawing racial lines at same time. Housing is wayyyyy over priced. Before being approved to moving here every homeowner and renter should read a book called Columbia from Images Of America and watch a documentary on why Jim Rouse built Columbia

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No_Independence_9527 t1_j9reqn4 wrote

That sounds really boring. I bought a house in West Friendship and it's awesome. Highly recommend it. No books or lame geriatric documentaries required.

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hoodreview t1_ja0i811 wrote

News Flash➡️➡️West Friendship definitely isn’t Columbia, West Freindship is a place for people who have a false sense of entitlement to feel more false entitlement.

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