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DeterminateHouse t1_jdjomhf wrote

Hungary's democracy is in decline.

Fuck Orban. Fuck Fidesz. Fuck second Orban. And fuck Orban again.

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noxav t1_jdjptyv wrote

Singling out Sweden over that is so dumb. The EU parliament itself has made that criticism; including Finland that they don't seem to have a problem with.

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Reselects420 t1_jdjrj64 wrote

But Sweden is being blocked by Turkey too, and Turkey is taking the majority of the blame for Sweden not being in NATO yet. No one’s blocking Finland, so Hungary would be on its own.

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noxav t1_jdjsx2y wrote

Yes that's the dumb part. Hungary's reason for blocking Sweden would also apply to Finland if they were logically consistent.

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telendria t1_jdjw213 wrote

It's been obvious for months now that the only reason Hungary is stalling is because Turkey doesn't approve yet and Orban thinks he can milk EU for releasing funds in exchange for ratification in the meantime, but the moment Turkey approves Sweden, Hungary is going to drop any demands and ratify Sweden immediately to not be 'the last one' to ratify and pretend to 'save face'

It has fuck all to do with Orban being Russian crony and everything with him being good ol slimy opportunist.

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[deleted] t1_jdlt14t wrote

It's funny in a way. Like Orban's a mini-Putin who's convinced himself he's a tactical genius, and is entirely unaware that the EU has grown tired of his bullshit and is perfectly willing to call his bluff. At least I hope so. This can't go on like this.

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TheMindfulnessShaman t1_jdnpbhy wrote

> and is entirely unaware that the EU has grown tired of his bullshit and is perfectly willing to call his bluff

I have no such faith in the EU.

Seems like a Chinese-designed scam at this point.

"Peace plan, peace plan, let's continue poisoning our citizens and buying Russian and Chinese neurotoxins while we get kickbacks and ritzy real estate."

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TheMindfulnessShaman t1_jdnp308 wrote

> It's been obvious for months now that the only reason Hungary is stalling is because Turkey doesn't approve yet

Nice deflection.

It's because Erdogan and Orban ride Putin like he's their daddy.

It has nothing to do with anything else.

They are Putin's patsies in NATO.

Simple as that.

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BobInWry t1_jdkb5eu wrote

Orban has no one else he can take it out on so he's going for Sweden.

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LittleStar854 t1_jdl5k19 wrote

What if I told you it's theater and has nothing to do with Sweden at all? They are both after consessions and probably have a deal with Putin.

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JPR_FI t1_jdlgdte wrote

Unlikely, but if Finland joins it becomes moot as Sweden is buffered by Finland.

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green_flash OP t1_jdjm7ff wrote

> “The Swedish prime minister asks what problem Hungarian parliament members have, so let’s help him understand,” Balazs Orban, the prime minister’s chief political adviser, who’s unrelated to the premier, wrote in social media posts late Thursday.

> He listed comments from Swedish cabinet members admonishing Hungary over its rights record.

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BobInWry t1_jdkbcsp wrote

Maybe the rest of the EU need to double down on their criticism of Orban as clearly the withholding of Covid funds isn't sufficient.

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Kewenfu t1_jdlsw2w wrote

Axis of Authoritarianism: Russia, China and Hungary.

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TheMindfulnessShaman t1_jdnq2ws wrote

And Erdoganistan.

I have still some hope for Belarus once Luka decides the Hague is much more comfortable than a Russian torture chamber.

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TheMindfulnessShaman t1_jdnomic wrote

IOW:

Orbanary is a snowflake nation.

A fascist state under the guise of a democracy.

If the EU does not take action now, then they lose any credibility they have left.

Don't dangle carrots when you should be using a stick.

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nomofica t1_jdktrix wrote

Convenient excuse.

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Puzzleheaded-Force14 t1_jdm8pnp wrote

Hungary out of NATO

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TheMindfulnessShaman t1_jdnpudx wrote

Easier said than done.

But post-WWXi, there will be a new alliance of democracies across the world and the states that were not democracies can join what's left of the Xinese and Putinorussiyan indentured states.

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fip-0-matic t1_jdlhdcp wrote

Can't we just throw Hungary out of NATO (and EU while we're on it)?

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neurodiverseotter t1_jdq3tyj wrote

To throw Hungary out of the EU, you need the vote of all EU members, including Hungary.

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warana123 t1_jdw32ji wrote

Fuck Hungary, we swedes Will not forget this treachery! Never again any Hungarian made products!

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