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Commercial_Case_7475 t1_jaa6xhe wrote

Maybe buy a house when you're ready to live here? We have a hosting shortage and buying a vacation home is pretty selfish at this point honestly.

Edit: also, if you're not willing to do the work of researching for yourself, no fuckin way you're gonna have the grit to actually homestead. Believe me, perusing around for property/townships is the easiest part of homesteading you'll ever do.

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Twombls t1_jaafvc7 wrote

For most people like this a "homestead" basically means they own 3 chickens and get in armed stand offs with the local zoning board.

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HappilyhiketheHump t1_jaalmdd wrote

First and foremost, they’d want the current use tax break on their vacation home.

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RiddleofSteel t1_jad9if6 wrote

I'll be building the house, so don't worry not stealing one from the locals. This is literally part of my research to see what people who have lived there their whole life think. Not sure if it's reddit bias but unfortunately most Vermonters here seem like xenophobic asshats blaming their own failures in life on outsiders. However I'm not moving to Vermont for the friendly townies in fact further away from people the better. You just happen to rate the highest in the US for stability as the environment collapses on us over the next 20-30 years. I want my kids to have a safe place to go.

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bobsizzle t1_jadinn3 wrote

New Hampshire would probably suit you better. Sincerely. It's similar to Vermont in enough of the ways you want. Or Maine. Just don't live by the coast and hurricanes won't be a big issue. If you're that concerned about potential weather in 30 year's. Guestimates that are likely inaccurate at best. There's also no income tax in New Hampshire, from wages. Or sales tax.

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Twombls t1_jadfthi wrote

Yeah. Vt is more community oriented. We really dont take kindly to preppers who move in from the big city and do wierd shit in the woods. We already have the ruby ridge people.

Texas is probably more of the type of place you should go to do that.

Edit: also I really dont think you are thinking this through. You are a rich long islander. Buying a vacation home in bumfuck vermont that you plan to ride out the apocalypse in. All the people in back woods vermont know each other and know who their neighbors are. They are armed to the teeth

What do you think is going to happen when they realize their asshole solitary neighbor has a ton of food and supplies.

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RiddleofSteel t1_jadj8q2 wrote

Yes starting my own farmstead is weird shit in the woods. I'm not some prepper, I just see Vermont as being one of the safest places to move my family to. My grandfather was a farmer and he taught me a lot and after a long career in IT, would love to get back to nature for my retirement and not have to worry about feeding myself next time some COVID like disaster comes around. You couldn't pay me to move down south for a whole plethora of reasons.

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BudsKind802 t1_jaa8n0i wrote

Have you considered New Hampshire?

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Twombls t1_jaafn5a wrote

Nah. Dont do it. We have a massive housing shortage here. We dont need one more dickhead coming up here for a week out of the year to pretend they are a pioneer.

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RiddleofSteel t1_jade03i wrote

Building a house takes time, growing an orchard, setting the land up takes time. Plan is to retire there and have it ready to go. There is a housing shortage literally in every state, you guys aren't special.

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Twombls t1_jadejyy wrote

Vt is statistically the worst or second worse off in the country actually.

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Plus-Birthday1987 t1_jaatzot wrote

yeah.. most vermonters dont take very kindly to this sorta shit 😂💩

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RiddleofSteel t1_jadc0kw wrote

I honestly never realized how xenophobic you guys were. Also blaming out of staters because your houses are expensive is delusional. Blame the hedge funds/Private equity buying them up, or just the general state of the market. Houses are expensive everywhere now.

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illusivealchemist t1_jadegdp wrote

Yeah the hedge funds are not buying houses in vermont. It is a place like no other and it is very rural and we don’t like big businesses. So it’s not desirable for those big wigs and shit. Maybe do more research and come visit to really understand what the fuck you’re talking about. Also I don’t know a single xenophobic person here but go off

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Plus-Birthday1987 t1_jadky38 wrote

dude, the dumb fuck said we’re “xenophobic” because HES FROM LONG ISLAND 😂😂😂 also, not sure if he knows what homesteading is..

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Twombls t1_jadlv8b wrote

Homesteading is raising all of your chickens for instagram and makong money selling the fantasy to people. while you actually shop at Costco.

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Plus-Birthday1987 t1_jadnct3 wrote

lolol 😂 exactly! hes some rich IT nerd from long island who has probably never set foot on a farm, but hes watching The Last of Us and has become inspired to start prepping.

after a year or two, he’ll find out that you have to work your hand to the bone (not to mention have skills that in some cases take a lifetime to learn) in order to keep a multi-acre garden, raise livestock, hunting/gathering/foraging, winterizing/maintenance to your home, etc etc. and that nice cabin he built will go up for sale, and he’ll end up buying a condo with a view in a place like Stowe to ACTUALLY retire in

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Plus-Birthday1987 t1_jadk7rf wrote

thanks for proving my point! you already dont seem welcome here 😂 i wonder why…….

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Full_Whereas_2694 t1_jaabvl9 wrote

Canada. Seriously, unless you’re going to rent that house to someone until you’re ready to retire please reconsider. Housing costs are out of control in no small part because of the large number of seasonal and second homes here.

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RiddleofSteel t1_jad9rza wrote

I'm coming from Long Island, I'll play my tiny fiddle about the housing prices for you.

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General_Skin_2125 t1_jadvwkj wrote

Let me know when you buy your homestead, a couple of my buddies and I are gonna do some Green Mountain Boys and Ethan Allen re-enactments.

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RiddleofSteel t1_jae86b3 wrote

>Lived 10 years in a neighborhood where MS-13 carved up 4 kids with machetes down the block, shootings were a weekly occurrence, and had to have a baseball bat handy to deal with the crack heads strung out from the drug dealer living next door. Sorry bunch of country bumpkins with a military fetish doesn't really scare me.

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General_Skin_2125 t1_jaeda6e wrote

I'll take things that never happened for $500, Alex.

The only person you're lying to is yourself. There are a lot of "country bumpkins" out here, with military experience and unrelated fetishes.

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RiddleofSteel t1_jaeh6qi wrote

https://www.longislandpress.com/2022/04/11/ms-13-associate-convicted-of-central-islip-quadruple-murder/

Point is your lame ass threat of violence isn't scaring someone from the hoods of NY man.

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Full_Whereas_2694 t1_jadg085 wrote

with that attitude you're sure to get a warm welcome from your neighbors. remember there's no such thing as "self sufficiency", you need a community. good luck.

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Hearth_Roots t1_jadt2g6 wrote

Facts, community is key in survival and a huge part of the culture here.

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General_Skin_2125 t1_jadw3rm wrote

Community of likeminded individuals with useful skills. Nobody wants regular Joe-shmoe's wasting their resources.

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Twombls t1_jadhjpx wrote

Yeah the "self sufficiency" thing is kinda bs. More of a fantasy prepper types have. If there was a societal collapse (unlikely) people who work together as small communities will probably be the ones who thrive. Prepper types will either run out of their rations and homestead types would just get taken over by said communities lmao. Also some dude from long island is not gonna have a self sufficient farm in VT. Especially after climate collapse.

There really has never been a time in history where solitary humans were the ones that thrived.

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Effinehright t1_jae0uj4 wrote

if its so great and valuable why leave?

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RiddleofSteel t1_jae5a4x wrote

Long Island is going to be heavily impacted by hurricanes and climate change in the coming decades. Also I want a big piece of land to have my little farmstead on, and basically impossible on Long Island. I paid 700K for a 1 Acre property here.

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Effinehright t1_jae5gu9 wrote

can I borrow your fiddle?

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RiddleofSteel t1_jaeagyz wrote

I'm not whining about it like the people in this thread are. I'm moving to a place I can afford what I want.

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random_vermonter t1_jaaeciu wrote

Try Upstate New York instead.

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Sharonlibrarian t1_jacmvtz wrote

Oh, God, don't send them here! Especially if they're from LI or NJ. They've completely ruined everything.

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RiddleofSteel t1_jadbr4i wrote

Ruined what exactly, if it wasn't for vacationing, colleges, etc.. What are all these backwoods towns with zero economy going to do? Then again I'm from LI and most of us suck and forget new jersey, so I kind of get it.

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Sharonlibrarian t1_jadez1z wrote

It's not just vacationing anymore!! A lot of these people have decided to stay! Development, crime, traffic. And of course the crappy big mouth attitude. And okay. I'm not back country. I'm on the edge of the Capital Region. But Vermont? As you can see, you're as welcome as locusts.

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Twombls t1_jadfev6 wrote

Idgaf if people want to move here and contribute. This guy just seems like he wants to buy 100 acres of property so he can live out his prepper fantasy once a year.

Vermont really isn't that big though. If you want to be in the middle of nowhere its not the place to move lol.

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richstowe t1_jad7zbd wrote

Sure you want to move here ? Look at how welcoming your neighbors would be .

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RiddleofSteel t1_jadc9rh wrote

Yeah, reason I'm going to buy 100 Acres + so I don't have to deal with neighbors too much. Surprised what assholes most of them seem like though. Even Long Island is a lot more welcoming and if you think housing prices are silly in Vermont, LOL.

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Twombls t1_jadedhr wrote

Ah so we get to lose another 100 acres of land to some dickhead from LI that thinks they can be Yosemite sam.

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Effinehright t1_jae0ozi wrote

Id go with Indiana near cincinatti and ky

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ashleyfoy t1_jaa4jjq wrote

Saint Albans Town up on French Hill

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