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Huegod t1_jaa0zfg wrote

Or the 49ers could have gone wishbone, single wing, Maryland I, or any other running formations.

What if the third guy gets hurt? Allow for an in-game trade?

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SportsBall89 t1_jaaclg6 wrote

Or the niners could have had a 3rd qb instead of depth at another position. At that point they wouldn’t have found a 3rd qb anyway to play their system

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mlorusso4 t1_jacc6ak wrote

The rule used to be you got a 52 man roster plus one emergency 3rd string qb that could only be activated if the other two were injured. Then teams wanted the flexibility to have more position players so they changed the rule to a 53 man roster of any position. Teams still have every right to carry 10 qbs on their roster. The 49ers just chose that they would rather have a 3rd string DE than a 3rd string QB. Personally, if I’ve already lost 2 starting QBs going into a playoff game I’m carrying 3 qbs into that game

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bossmt_2 t1_jacd0rn wrote

No the rule was you would dress 45 with the flexible QB who would come in if a QB was inactive. An example I remember was the Eagles, many times when they had a healthy lead they'd inactivate McNabb and bring on his backup to save him getting hit. Because the dressed backup QB for the Eagles was Coy detmer who couldn't throw a 15 yard out because he had a noodle for an arm, but was David Akers' preferred place kick holder. Instead the rules changed and let you dress 46 no need for an emergency QB

Niners had 3 QBs on their active roster in the playoffs, Jimmy G just didn't dress

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Marchisias t1_jabl89g wrote

The NHL does emergency goalie. I say let 1 dude play for both teams

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userwithusername t1_jaceyez wrote

In my opinion it is the greatest moment in sports every single time a regular Joe is forced into an NHL game to play goalie.

Watching the Leafs lose to their own Zamboni driver was simply incredible.

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Lumpyyyyy t1_jacf6j6 wrote

The chances of a regular Joe getting carted off playing goalie is wayyyy less than the average Joe getting carted off playing QB. That is not to downplay goalie, it is insanely hard. They’ll let up a shit ton of goals and probably get hurt, but there’s a good chance the average person is permanently injured or disfigured playing QB.

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userwithusername t1_jacfkhc wrote

I wasn’t suggesting letting non-professionals play NFL QB, just professing my love of randos playing NHL goalie. You are right, it would be criminal to have some dude with two years of NAIA QB experience drop back against NFL edge rushers.

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chefhj t1_jacig6d wrote

Im reminded of that sketch from Rick and morty where a dude has to gladiator fight a car

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9yr0ld t1_jacni7r wrote

they aren't exactly average Joe's. the Zamboni driver played hockey at a high level, just not professionally. any backup QB would be a decent QB, just not a professional player.

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MM556 t1_jabxnim wrote

They already could have had a 3rd QB. They just chose to have him play another position.

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oh_my_jesus t1_jac7cnt wrote

If they don’t call this the “Designated Survivor” rule I might start to worry about the state of the leagues meme skills.

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DFWPunk t1_jaclwnw wrote

You mean the rule the teams rejected instead wanting to be able to have another player of their choice?

Sorry, but zero sympathy for the fact teams have chosen not to carry 3 QBs.

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jarpio t1_jacewjl wrote

49ers are being bigger babies dealing with their own lack of planning than the saints were a few years ago and the saints at least got legitimately screwed.

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IronManTim t1_jacmsh5 wrote

They used to have an emergency QB, but they made it a regular roster spot and teams chose not to use that for the 3rd QB, right?

Just expand the active rosters entirely. The game is specialized enough where going to say 53 players wouldn't be a problem.

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Yak_52TD t1_jac2pbq wrote

Hang on, how many players are actually on the field at any one time? They need HOW MANY players???

I've never been able to get into the game, it just feels like so much excess and so little substance.

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unifyzero t1_jac5wfz wrote

11 players/team on the field at one time. 22 starters, 22 backups/depth, 2 kickers suited up for the game.

There are a few factors that make the roster size, necessary, if not a little lower than it should be.

Gridiron football is pretty unique in that the positions are wildly different from one another so you can’t typically have one backup covering multiple positions, which means you need an almost 1-for-1 starter/back up ratio.

There are a handful of positions that carry skill requirements, but are infrequent enough and/or risky enough to not want to assign a starter to it (gunner, long snapper, etc.)

Some positions essentially require 4-6 players to ensure that you can field different personnel packages.

Wear and tear. It’s an intentionally violent and dangerous game. People are almost certainly going to get injured, and barring that, many players will need to cycle out for rest.

All that being said, it is definitely a game of a lot of excess.

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donutello2000 t1_jadvtgn wrote

No one tell this guy about college football teams, who must have a minimum of 63 active players, and can have up to 85 scholarship players, and 125 active players.

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bigloser42 t1_jacecf3 wrote

Unique players on the field in all phases would total 25; 11 offense, 11 defense, 1 kicker, 1 punter, 1 long snapper. The remainder of the spots are backup or rotational players.

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Quadstriker t1_jacmj8v wrote

Maybe have a 3rd QB active if you want a 3rd QB, or maybe protect your first two better. Either way they reaped what they sowed.

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bossmt_2 t1_jacbp5i wrote

As I understood the Niners issue it had to do with Roster space. Had Jimmy G been inactive they could have signed another QB but they had a full active roster. They would have needed to cut someone. And they had no QBs on the practice squad as well.

As I understand there's nothing stopping someone from dressing 3 QBs right now. Just that teams elect to dress other players and gamble on the QBs not getting hurt.

IMO whenever a player is declared out for the game you could be allowed to activate an inactive player. But that's just my opinion.

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bigloser42 t1_jacejrp wrote

They could have cut a PS player, signed a QB to the PS then elevated him to the roster & activated him for the game without cutting any of their active players. Or, you know, not tried to block a prolific pass rusher with a 3rd string TE on an island. Twice.

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bossmt_2 t1_jacfqi2 wrote

According to Spotrac the Niners had a full practice squad, still inorder to elevate someone from the practice squad you need to make them inactive from the regualr squad as you can only have 53 or whatever players.

Had they cut or reserved Jimmy G, they could have signed another QB and put him on the squad, they had no intentions of doing that. As they played basically the entire season with only 2 active QBs.

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bigloser42 t1_jad4wpm wrote

Yeah, you need to cut a PS player, but teams(at least good ones) do that all the time.

You don’t need to cut a player from the active roster to escalate someone from the PS. Each week you can escalate any 2 PS players to the active roster, giving you a total of up to 55 players. You can do this with any PS player up to 3 times per season before you must sign them to the active roster. They can be active for game day just like any other player on the active roster, so long as your total active players does not exceed 46.

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Fpscharles t1_jabchv2 wrote

They were still going to lose. Just like if they had Dobbins. Shit was over.

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joogiee t1_jabo3yo wrote

Lmaoo im a 49ers fan but comon if they had a 3rd guy who was BEHIND josh johnson on the depth chart, we had 0 chance to win that. It was done after purdy.

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Delcium1 t1_jabsp6p wrote

It's not about giving the niners a chance. It's about having a good product on the field. All about that bottom line and I'm willing to bet the numbers showed everyone changed the channel when both QBs got hurt

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MM556 t1_jabxlh5 wrote

A third q3 won’t really improve the product

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Delcium1 t1_jacul1i wrote

Better than one with a torn UCL

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MM556 t1_jacy41i wrote

Marginally so.

A 3rd QB (in this case it would be their 5th string) is not improving it in any meaningful way.

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Fpscharles t1_jaemp27 wrote

Nah I kept watching it. I’m a Seahawks fan. Sad about Purdy’s injury but was not sad about them getting their asses busted. I don’t wish injury on any player.

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