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Alternative-Flan2869 t1_j09ja3d wrote

And should we really wonder why gas and petrol prices in general are so outrageous?

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avogadros_number OP t1_j08wpsg wrote

Study: Following the money: trade associations, political activity and climate change


>Abstract

>The political activities of industries associated with the production and consumption of fossil fuels have thwarted state efforts to advance climate policy. Yet research on the role of trade associations that firms use to coordinate their activities remains sparse. Studies of business political activity are generally focussed on the firm level with trade associations typically considered only as part of wider advocacy coalitions. Scholars are still to examine the full range of political activities of trade associations. Using an original dataset built from trade associations’ IRS filings, we find that trade associations engaged on climate change spent $3.4 billion in 10 years on political activities, with the largest expenditure on advertising and promotion, followed by lobbying, grants and political contributions. Our data challenges the prevailing assumptions about the primary political activities of business actors. To explain the variation in spending, we present the findings from a regression analysis and semi-structured interviews. We argue that scholars have for too long failed to account for the political activities of trade associations, which are also one of the most important opponents of climate policies.

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kaynkayf t1_j0a1een wrote

Don’t forget the nursing home lobby!

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ViennaLager t1_j0b330j wrote

To me it seems like such a weird thing to spend billions on marketing for.

Do you as a consumer have much choice? What kind of energy alternative would not be from the US? Oil, gas, petrol, renewable energy, nuclear energy etc. It would all be from the US and a domestic product.

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FreedomFace67 t1_j0bhs15 wrote

Its because marketing and advertising are 100% tax deductible.

Thats right.

The 350 billion spent on advertising in the US this year is actually 350 billion in uncollected taxes.

Edit: I be dumb this isn't correct

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LostinPowells312 t1_j0bl2n4 wrote

Theoretically, it’s, at worst, the marginal tax rate (say 35%) times $350M. But it’s also taxable to the people who this was paid out to (e.g. if you paid a marketing firm that paid employees, that money gets taxed as income).

Companies do NOT spend money to just avoid taxes because you lose more money that way. There either needs to be another purpose or a different mechanism for sheltering/hiding assets

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ViennaLager t1_j0bsb5n wrote

Why wouldnt it be? Its a operating cost.

However I assume you have some employee tax in the US? Or if its external marketing that there is some VAT or similar tax.

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cubbiesnextyr t1_j0buvqr wrote

That money is paid to some other company who reports it as income, so OP's entire point is moot. It doesn't result in "uncollected taxes" it just moves who pays the tax from one company to another.

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cubbiesnextyr t1_j0bv2yz wrote

This might be one of the most uninformed posts I've ever read on Reddit.

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