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CarryALongsword t1_j5w82de wrote

They call us snowflakes but they can't deal with a rainbow.

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FattieBanton t1_j5wmbth wrote

Man even M&Ms we’re deemed too offensive

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[deleted] t1_j5yn6tu wrote

HaVe yOu CheckeD yOur XboX LaTeLy!?!!!!!!!!1

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MountainPast3951 t1_j5zh146 wrote

That whole trope was just nonsense. I'm convinced some of these people are clinically delusional

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DogOnABike t1_j5zpeem wrote

I thought the M&M thing wasn't about them being offensive, but the cartoon candy mascots not being fuckable enough.

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big-heck-nah t1_j5w4j0b wrote

Real funny sticker for a school district that just spent the last year working out policies to discriminate against trans students

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otepp t1_j5wa4ng wrote

ALL ARE WELCOME ^just ^not ^the ^gays

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-lamppost- t1_j5yv9vf wrote

Yes it does sound like a variation of “all lives matter”

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RefrigeratorRater t1_j5wy8wi wrote

Does the rainbow include straight people? Real question. I’ve always thought of the rainbow as representing LGBTQ+ ppl. So you would use the rainbow in the context of saying like an event or space is welcoming of them, but IDK if it applies to literally everyone.

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blackdragon8577 t1_j5x1g6c wrote

It includes allies. So yeah. It does include everyone except those that don't think LGBTQ+ people should be treated equally.

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RefrigeratorRater t1_j5x5odm wrote

Makes sense. Still feels a little weird to have at school if you view it as a battle flag, since school ideally isn’t a battleground the way Twitter or TikTok are. However maybe I’m the odd man out in thinking one doesn’t need to be in battle mode all the time.

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lap_doggie t1_j5xdyp5 wrote

A rainbow is not a battle flag at all. Its recognition, freedom, acceptance and so many other things. The only ones viewing it as a battle flag are those that dont believe queer people are valid.

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RefrigeratorRater t1_j5yg5cd wrote

What you’re describing is a symbol that carries a lot with it, and when brought to an ideological battleground, is used as battle flag. Maybe poor terminology on my part, but either way, the words on this print out sufficiently state all are welcome, and the rainbow brings a lot with it politically that is best avoided at a school. Same way I wouldn’t want teachers wearing MAGA hats even though the literal words on the hat are fine, the symbolism just stirs people up.

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TheStinkySkunk t1_j5yix4c wrote

>the words on this print out sufficiently state all are welcome

If all are welcome why did Hanover seek the ADF's review of policies regarding trans students? Hanover refused to adopt policies that allow a trans student to use the bathroom that aligns with their gender identity. And then they go and seek the opinion of ADF which has goals of "ensuring the law respects God created order for marriage, the family, and human sexuality.”

Are the words enough? No. Not when Hanover is seeking input from a group that doesn't see trans rights as human rights. Not when Hanover's school board has to individually approve which bathroom a trans student can or cannot use.

Edit: I did notice in your original comment you mentioned how you didn't feel the need to be in "battle mode" all the time. I don't know you or your political ideology, but trans people are continually being targeted by Republicans and the alt-right every day.

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lap_doggie t1_j5z0tv6 wrote

I understand idealogically what you're saying. However , the words Make America Great Again are actually not fine on their own at all. The words All Are Welcome obviously are fine on their own, as you said, because they dont not recklessly harken to the past.

I think a better comparison would be to say it's like banning the color red because it's also the color of blood/gore. Politicians are actively making a battle out of rainbow 🌈 coloring. Which is so silly and a waste of time because a rainbow also happens to be a useful set of colors in a school ground, whether paired with welcoming words or not.😂

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Ditovontease t1_j5y5onf wrote

The only people making it a battle flag are piss baby right wingers who hate gay people

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SaltyBarDog t1_j5y6p1i wrote

For an area that had no issue with traitor statues and schools named after bigots for a century, they jumped on this issue pretty quickly.

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Lokky t1_j5y88iv wrote

How do you even manage to take a message of equality and acceptance and call it a battle flag, like come on now.

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RefrigeratorRater t1_j5ydxqk wrote

It’s used as a way to identify “which side” one is on. Otherwise the words on this print out are sufficient to share the message you mention. The same way the Don’t Tread On Me license plate is a battle flag for tea partiers

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Lokky t1_j5ye93l wrote

There are no sides, there is just a bunch of bigots who wish they lived in the bronze age and then there is the rest of us who live in a society.

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Kamesod t1_j5yk1xu wrote

Accepting people’s sexual preferences is not picking a side. It’s the neutral, expected way to be. Anything outside of that is just antiquated bigotry that will fade into the abyss in the next few decades.

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anthropophagoose t1_j5ykl9b wrote

This is the issue- this isn’t sides on an ideological discussion (no matter how bad folks on the right want to present it as such), the symbol is about recognizing people’s right to be treated as people, plain and simple.

Treating a rainbow flag like it’s representing some kind of special interest group, or even a symbols of “wokeness” is a discursive tactic that makes it seem like a political discussion but it’s really not- its very simply a message that a large spectrum (hence the rainbow) of sexual and gender identities that have a history of discrimination against them are accepted unilaterally and equally as human beings. This shouldn’t even be politicized at this point, let alone seen as a “battle” statement.

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jpkoushel t1_j5yq1ux wrote

I know you're getting a lot of replies but I hope you have time to read this.

The reason that it's not a battle flag is because it's inherently not two-sided. If the sides were, "Nobody can be gay" and "Everybody has to be gay", you would have a valid point. However, that's not the case.

Right now the conflict is one side saying, "Nobody can be gay" but the opposition is just saying "It's okay to be gay and you should expect the same respect the rest of society gets by default".

If you're not gay that's fine. Nobody is excluding straight people from anything. People are just asking to be able to show support to a group that's currently and historically been given a hard time just for existing.

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RefrigeratorRater t1_j5ywsy7 wrote

I’m of the middle side where I just want people to be free to exist doing whatever but don’t want a political battle happening in school between the sides you mention. The absence of displaying a rainbow is not the absence of support for the meaning behind it, but it feels like that’s how people interpret it.

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jpkoushel t1_j5yy5j2 wrote

The side posting flags etc is the middle side. They're the ones saying be gay if you are and don't be if you're not. Nobody is forcing anyone to partake in anything they don't want to

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cubeberg t1_j5yru1q wrote

To be clear, "which side" is a choice between "I think people deserve to be treated with respect" vs. "I'm a bigot". This is a "I like pancakes" and "so you hate waffles?" situation.

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IntrepidDreams t1_j5w1f5y wrote

That's a hideous looking font.

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Soloemilia t1_j5w46sn wrote

The last Hanover County thing they put out looked like a swastika, so this is an improvement

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Ditovontease t1_j5y5qn2 wrote

My MIL has this shirt, I’m asking her to give it to me lol

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Gothmom85 t1_j5wnvko wrote

Ugh this is so sadly true. That was So messed up.

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icepick314 t1_j5ygzdg wrote

It looks like Family Dollar version of Comic Sans.

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twelvesteprevenge t1_j5wmlfx wrote

I’d make them fire me over a rainbow sticker. But I quit teaching in Hanover after 7 years two weeks before the beginning of school bc they put me in a bad spot so obviously I don’t have much regard for their administration.

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5x0lbm wrote

Congratulations on leaving the place. I respected almost all of the teachers I had in Hanover

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cman486 t1_j5x1zqo wrote

i too liked my teachers at cold harbor/stonewall and Lee Davis.

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flyerdj t1_j5ycjcv wrote

Never thought I’d see a comment about someone going to the same elem and middle school as me. Wild.

I liked nearly all of my Hanover teachers and still keep in touch with a few of them to this day thanks to social media. Did have a couple shitty ones too tho but they were definitely outnumbered by great teachers and staff.

Lastly, eff this sticker and banning the rainbows in the schools. Shit like this is why I left Hanover and Virginia

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5x25v6 wrote

I only hated three of mine. Two openly played favorites and one was not a great teacher in general.

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VikingHokie t1_j5yzxbj wrote

Yo that’s my school track too

Edit ooooo you and I played backyard football growing up. Nice to see you cman

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cman486 t1_j5zl2rn wrote

that’s not creepy at all, but hi

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SaltyBarDog t1_j5y6gnq wrote

My ex-wife could never understand why I didn't want to be a teacher. Garbage like this.

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jamesyishere t1_j5y8r8l wrote

Rainbows are allowed. We have been specifically told we cannot have stickers from Safespace RVA. Prior they provided all our Rainbow stickers. At my school with have a teacher with a trans flag on the door, the counselours have rainbows on their windows, and we have an openly genderqueer teacher. A total ban on Rainbows would be news to me

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electric-cowgurl t1_j5yrimo wrote

Why can’t they use the safe place stickers?

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jamesyishere t1_j5ytzuv wrote

Aside from Klanover being what it is, SafeSpaceRVA is an Organization that the School board does not want to claim association with

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MyLastComment t1_j5zbpg7 wrote

Fuck 'em. As a Hanover resident and a a long time supporter of SafeSpace the school board can eat a dick.

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tmos540 t1_j5zcwa0 wrote

If you were a teacher, there's a good chance they'd eat your job too.

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_puppyro t1_j5zvxq9 wrote

Is there a particular reason for not wanting association or is it the school board's senseless grab at trying to "protect the kids" from "turning gay"

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fusion260 t1_j607obs wrote

You got it in the last part.

To them, simply acknowledging the statement to “protect trans kids” is effectively “shoving sexuality down their throats” and “turning” them trans. Just by teaching about those differences or discussing it is, apparently, “grooming” them.

It’s absolute nonsense, but you really can’t talk sense into someone who believes that stuff to begin with.

I was taught to pray the gay away. All that taught me was to hate myself for 10 years and pretend to be straight when I clearly wasn’t.

Edit: a word

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_puppyro t1_j609cqj wrote

Man, I feel so bad for grade school kids, I barely just escaped when the pandemic hit. We're snowflakes bc we want to be treated like humans, but they can't handle a rainbow sticker that says SafeSpace... Right

They literally see queer people being happy and get mad, jealousy much? Lol

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fusion260 t1_j60ary5 wrote

Yesterday, Henrico County Public Schools posted a "Yay of the Day" picture yesterday with a teacher from Highland Springs School who was wearing a "protect trans kids" shirt.

As we can predict, several commenters were livid. They dragged their BS religious excuses into it and said that HCPS was grooming children. It's "against their religion" to refer to a child in a gender that they weren't born with, one said.

They can't point to a Bible verse that even says that, unless they're going as literal to call it a "lie," but they'll sure as hell make it sound like it's in there.

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_puppyro t1_j60bgjj wrote

God I hate people, that teacher looks like a really lovely man and I'm sure his students absolutely adore him.

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STREAMOFCONSCIOUSN3S t1_j60risl wrote

Lol that shirt is cringe, surely he can change into this outfit after school before going to whatever protest he's going to. Just let school be school, jeez o wheez. Not sure what he's trying to accomplish. I wish people would just shut the fuck up and let the kids learn. People need to touch some grass, get off the cable news and internet.

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combinera t1_j5wswi1 wrote

I would have expected more of a Confederate Gray background.

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airquotesNotAtWork t1_j5warnx wrote

“Joke’s on you kid, the district doesn’t think you’re people”

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Hurlaroid t1_j5ww0yf wrote

Imagine being such a bored, unfulfilled, useless twat that a fucking rainbow in a school is unimaginable enough for you to take direct political action against it. $20 the people championing the rainbow ban are railing heckin dudes behind the Night N Day.

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internal_logging t1_j5xn46s wrote

Should have been in yellow with poorly painted text that rambles on about like those big yellow tea party signs that used to be up everywhere when I was growing up there.

..are they still there? I miss them and the chuckle I'd get driving by.

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5w9jsk wrote

I think the Hanover Patriots had something to do with it (I don’t particularly respect that group.)

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CptJaxxParrow t1_j5wybw7 wrote

the hanover patriots are a domestic terrorist group that supports acts of political violence. ask me how i know. its not just some conservative community group. they are willing to hunt people down that they view as the enemy, threaten them, and attempt to take their life. members of that group have done it to me personally because they thought i was an "antifa scout"

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5wyt0m wrote

Oh trust me I can’t stand them. Pretty sure the leader and some of his pals went to January 6. If you want me pissed off, all you have to do is imply that elections officers aren’t properly checking people in and miscounting votes. (I am an elections officer so that’s why I get pissy about them.) I would never ally myself with those people, especially because of their stance on LGBT+ people. (Also unless you want to support someone who supports them, don’t shop at Books Beads and More. The owner is a fan of that group)

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CptJaxxParrow t1_j5x6rmg wrote

leader also has several DV charges. beats the shit out of his wife (shocker)

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5xigpd wrote

Turns out one of the members has a sub stack (sort of like a newsletter blog thing) called “Tales from a Domestic Terrorist” and yeah, I’m quite unimpressed (read I am quite uncomfortable)

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CptJaxxParrow t1_j5xl5v7 wrote

Ooo didn't know about that, feel free to dm me a link. I like to keep tabs on those sociopaths. Know your enemy and all that

EDIT: nevermind I found it. The ramblings of a lunatic

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5x6y8y wrote

Honestly not surprised but also after reading some of his posts on his personal account. I honestly can’t stand him and would never dream of joining the organization

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needsexyboots t1_j5x0517 wrote

Hey, thanks for being an elections officer! That is pretty awesome

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5x0eug wrote

It’s fun, if you can you should do it. We’re always looking for more people. I was 19 when I started

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CptJaxxParrow t1_j5x70md wrote

one of the guys who has an ar-15 tattoo on his forearm and a serious case of meth mouth was spotted as an "election officer" (read: voter intimidator) during the 2020 election

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5x771p wrote

We have rules about what we can and cannot say as elections officers. Anybody who breaks the rules gives us a bad name and I despise them. We cannot mention anything that could be deemed political

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CptJaxxParrow t1_j5xairb wrote

they were just standing far enough away from the polling places and saying crazy shit to people. not actual election officers

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5xapaf wrote

I’m just glad I’ve never actually met any of the poor sods. I honestly can’t stand them, I know once upon a time I would have thought they were acceptable but I educated myself and recognize they spew hate speech not love

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KnopeCampaign t1_j5yvx1u wrote

Can you tell me where I’d find more info on this group? I live in Henrico but work in Hanover and reading these comments….I gotta know more.

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5yw354 wrote

Look up Hanover Patriots on Facebook. If you scroll long enough you will find the post about the stickers

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KnopeCampaign t1_j5yw5yx wrote

Thank you!

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Accomplished-Pen-394 t1_j5ywccb wrote

They really try to frame themselves as Good Samaritans just trying to help the community but those of us who have been down the rabbit hole of research know the truth

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Horror-Fisherman-575 t1_j5wb9mm wrote

How very “Christian” of the ones who banned it. Sky-daddy isn’t going to like this! Don’t they know he created the rainbow originally?

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Fender58 t1_j5x10cz wrote

Kicking and screaming will this county be dragged into the present.

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_cassquatch t1_j5y7smw wrote

If you would like to support local businesses that are committed to progress in Hanover, please check out Morr donuts on 360! They do super cool birthday donut boxes, and they are LOUD supporters of trans and LGBTQIA students in Hanover and partner with others in our community to bring this county kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

I love living here. I love that my Target is never crowded. I love the country roads. I’m hoping that more progressive young families like ours will take over.

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melblaze t1_j5yarww wrote

also Sugar Sweet Desserts in Kings Charter. She has a rainbow on her FB cover and it says “is a proud ally”. There are more of us moving into the county

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rivindellmagic t1_j5ynpvc wrote

They have the BEST carrot cake in RVA and are crazy friendly.

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AlphaStrike89 t1_j5zox5k wrote

Just moved to Mechanicsville from the city/west end last year 👋

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_cassquatch t1_j5zpgr7 wrote

Welcome! We moved from Scott’s Addition three years ago. Feel free to PM me :)

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never_graduating t1_j60m2b4 wrote

And they’re delicious! They’ve thrown in extra donut holes too. Really nice people.

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chasetwisters t1_j5wvwnn wrote

I'd love a little more background on this. I'm not surprised in the least, but what lead to this?

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blackdragon8577 t1_j5x2h29 wrote

Nothing. There was no event or inviting incident.

I am pretty sure they held special sessions just to push this through the school board.

What a complete waste of time.

Plus they are hurting so badly for teachers that you can get away with just about anything right now.

Also, they are embroiled in a lawsuit from the ACLU about trans bathroom policies and are about to be under another lawsuit for backroom deals to stack the school board with evangelicals so they can "clean up the county".

They definitely have way more to worry about than this bullshit.

But these fucking people that live here can't even be bothered to let us vote to see if the county wants an elected school board.

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cubeberg t1_j5yrfp4 wrote

The local Hanover Patriots who have spent all last year targeting trans kids realized that some teachers had "Safe Space" stickers and decided to spam the school board with emails. The school board who worked with ADF (big anti-lgbtq legal group) last year responded by removing all of the safe space stickers in the schools.
So bigotry - that's what lead to this.

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Jellyfishes_OW t1_j60gv73 wrote

That group is practically a terrorist group in my eyes. They event participated in Jan 6 (they went up there, idk if they helped storm the capital or not).

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cubeberg t1_j60kqmm wrote

They pitch themselves as a "Community Service" group, but that's just a façade. I don't know if anyone from the group actually went into the capital - but they recently had a fundraiser for someone from Hanover who did - they called him a "political prisoner".

Having sat through quite a few school board meetings watching some of their more outspoken members - they're not nice people.

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raindeerpie t1_j603na5 wrote

the school board just doesn't want to associate with that organization anymore. rainbow stickers are not banned. no one is discriminating in hanover.

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cubeberg t1_j6082j4 wrote

Except "that organization" is any organization that supports LGBTQ+ students in any capacity - not just one. Meanwhile the school brings in an openly anti-LGBTQ legal organization to help write school policies.

Sure - no discrimination.

You obviously don't live in Hanover, know our school board, or the Hanover Patriots that were the cause of this.

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Mr_Boneman t1_j5wsc11 wrote

Surprised it doesn’t have a confederate flag. They don’t call it Klanover for nuthin.

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raindeerpie t1_j603ut6 wrote

nobody calls it that except like three people on reddit who do it just to be edgy.

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TrashApocalypse t1_j5wusbk wrote

Would any it be amazing if conservatives cared about more than just rainbows and candy?

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ArcadianBlueRogue t1_j5xg73v wrote

Imagine feeling threatened by a fucking rainbow lmao

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TheSkinnyJ t1_j5z5oms wrote

All are welcome some exceptions applied

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-lamppost- t1_j5yv5rb wrote

Matches all hanover county public schools branding.

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this-ok t1_j5xpnwh wrote

I work for a county government. This is the perfect example of how governments try to appease everyone without appeasing anyone. It doesn’t go far enough for the communities it directly affects, and at the same time, too radical for the communities that haven’t been in school since Nixon was in office.

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dougc84 t1_j5y09o4 wrote

This looks like a crappy DIY guitar pedal.

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wet_beefy_fartz t1_j5ybgmm wrote

Hanover County: “All are welcome. Wait, no. Not you.”

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Jasdavi t1_j5zgh2e wrote

It's giving cop energy

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MountainPast3951 t1_j5zhdl7 wrote

So now we only associate rainbows with the LGBTQA+ (hope I included everyone) community? Like I'm straight, don't have a problem with others, but I do love a rainbow. They're pretty

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rydogg1 t1_j5wx9u2 wrote

How accepting of the blue people from the Avatar.

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JustSelection7823 t1_j5y4bod wrote

If rainbows are excluded then all ARE NOT Welcome.

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tallbabycogs t1_j5y7psg wrote

Hanover county public school have really outdone themselves this year!

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ValidGarry t1_j5zndlg wrote

The politically appointed chumps have had a big year. The teachers are mostly fantastic and do their job despite political shenanigans and not because of them.

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Diver-Horror t1_j5yo67q wrote

Tell me blue lives matter without telling me blue lives matter……

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KnopeCampaign t1_j5yw4tq wrote

Honestly I thought that was a little too coincidental as well. Out of every color and that particular shade screams “police” to me.

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NannyW00t t1_j5zl0vh wrote

Anyone else hear the character of Tangina from Poltergeist? Just me?

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STREAMOFCONSCIOUSN3S t1_j5wppuw wrote

I don't get it. Is this an LGBTQ pride sticker, where the rainbow was replaced with the blue background?

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Samskrimpz t1_j5ziey3 wrote

Kinda missing the point if the symbol that indicates inclusivity is not allowed lol

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ActuallyAMenace t1_j5zun3a wrote

My mom teaches in Hanover and this tracks big time

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300blakeout t1_j5x7b97 wrote

Perfectly fine.

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notnot_athrowaway t1_j5y4vw7 wrote

Yup. What everyone in this thread doesn’t understand is the rainbow has become a political symbol, which schools should be impartial to. Weird world we live in when people get offended because a sticker simply says “all are welcome”.

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Lokky t1_j5y8ryq wrote

The only people who see rainbows as political are homophobes and bigots who don't view anyone who is slightly different from them as real people.

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twelvesteprevenge t1_j5ykm43 wrote

Geeeee, now who made that flag a political football? Step 1: identify a representation of a group you hate, Step 2: be offended by that representation, Step 3: call for that symbol to be banned by a government entity to protect your feelings when it’s really just about sticking your finger in the eye of the “others” you hate.

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300blakeout t1_j5y51wv wrote

“Has become a political symbol”

Nailed it.

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dj1200techniques t1_j5xa41q wrote

I like the colors and the font too. They did a good job on these.

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UNKWNDTH2002 t1_j5wotso wrote

does it rly have to be a rainbow

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Awrnawr OP t1_j5wpegw wrote

Does the county really have to mandate that teachers can't display a rainbow?

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raindeerpie t1_j604eyv wrote

they don't. they just don't want them displaying the sticker from the safespace rva organization. no one is banning rainbows. stop spreading hate

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UNKWNDTH2002 t1_j5wqqbs wrote

wait really, it's actually been set in stone this time?

lordy mb i didn't know that actually went thru

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notnot_athrowaway t1_j5y4jvp wrote

I mean the rainbow has become a political symbol, just look at the responses in this thread. I think schools should be impartial and just simply say everyone is welcome.

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joshlamm t1_j5ycq59 wrote

It's only political because one side says it is. Just let people be what they want to be as long as they aren't hurting anyone and keep the government out of it

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thisonesathrowawway t1_j5wmwzb wrote

All are welcome just not only gay people or people who have been harmed by gender ideology and deserve a space free from it

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TheStinkySkunk t1_j5ymavz wrote

Jesus you're probably one of those "All Lives Matter" people.

Look the pride flag, rainbow, BLM logo isn't saying white people don't matter or cis gendered people don't matter. It's saying that these people are equal to the cis gendered and white people.

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thisonesathrowawway t1_j61tmbj wrote

Lol what I’m saying is that people who have been harmed by this ideology; primarily women and gay people deserve spaces free from it in public.

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slapyapyap t1_j5xus74 wrote

That’s kind of what I was thinking on this. With so many ideologies being forced on us constantly, it would be nice to walk into a public space and not see posters or or other displays that are always pandering to a minority. Kids should be walking into a place to learn free from stuff like this shoved down there throat. This seems to be the pendulum finally swinging back but over correctly a bit too much.

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