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ZA44 t1_j8w7fdw wrote

> City correction officers, who are largely barred from cooperating with federal immigration officials, on at least several occasions in recent years went above and beyond to coordinate with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in the deportation of incarcerated immigrants, according to a trove of emails unveiled during a City Council hearing on Wednesday.

I don’t get the outrage, if you commit a crime and your immigration status is dodgy then you should be deported. Also, a ICE detention center is probably better than Rikers.

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railsonrails t1_j8wnbd4 wrote

See, I’m with you for violent crime, but it’s not just violent crime that sends you down the NYPD to DOC to ICE deportation pipeline.

See for instance the case of Castillo Maradiaga, a DACA recipient who got arrested for jaywalking in the Bronx and then sent over to ICE.

sad as it is, criminal statutes are enforced unevenly (if you’re gonna start ticketing people for jaywalking in New York without racial prejudice…that’s about 8 million people who’re jail-bound)

Not unopposed to violent felons being deported, but I’ll bring up the Exonerated Five as an example of people being wrongly convicted for violent felonies. Sadly that wasn’t a one-off and the trend continues even today — and I don’t think anyone should be denied a future in the US because an overeager DA was wanting to increase their conviction rate.

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IKNWMORE t1_j91gjla wrote

I doubt he was sent to jail for just Jaywalking. There is more to the story the article isn’t saying. Also in the article it self it states that he was sent to ICE on error.

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mowotlarx OP t1_j8tjkq1 wrote

I have to laugh that the DOC Captain mentioned in the articme who used that hashtag in her email has this in her Facebook bio:

>"I'm a child of GOD with BIG dreams. I LOVE Jesus and JESUS loves ME!!!'

Nothing says " I love Jesus" like being a xenophobic jailer.

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archiotterpup t1_j8tgfa2 wrote

Shocked face

We live in a police state.

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Sickpup831 t1_j8uhcez wrote

We literally do not. We live in one of the most liberal cities in America. People leave police states to come live here. I’m not saying this situation in the article isn’t shady af, but calling nyc a police state is just as hyperbolic as the Post calling it a crime-ridden wasteland.

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mowotlarx OP t1_j8uka13 wrote

Rikers is an internationally notorious deadly jail facility. I think it's fair to call what we have here a police state so long as we have Rikers.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_j8ux3xe wrote

As far as jail goes, it’s not the biggest mortality problem in NYC.

People who stay in a NYC shelter are more likely to die than people who stay in Riker’s.

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IloveSeaFoood t1_j8w9z5b wrote

Really? Cuz I can walk down the block to my local precinct and scream “fuck the police” until my face turns blue and nothing will happen to me cuz I’m not breaking a law

Cuz we live in the USA where we have the freedom to do that

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b1argg t1_j8wvqn6 wrote

They can find a reason to fuck with you if they wanted to.

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SolitaryMarmot t1_j8wznpc wrote

You must be super white.

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IloveSeaFoood t1_j8xbfd3 wrote

I’m actually hispanic but I don’t break the law so I don’t get harassed by police

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SoothedSnakePlant t1_j8x48af wrote

You say that, but that's not always true. The police in Georgia executed an anti-police activist because they didn't like him, the Buffalo police killed an old man for protesting, it's not like eveeyone who does nothing wrong except annoy the police gets off unscathed.

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Griffin808 t1_j8whn9c wrote

But if you’re selling Lucy’s you might get choked to death.

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Sickpup831 t1_j8wr80r wrote

And that event was followed by a decade of litigation, people losing their jobs, and multi million dollar payouts from the city. Not saying this is justice to make up for that atrocity by any means. But do you think any of this is happening in actual police states?

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Griffin808 t1_j8wv0ei wrote

What I’m saying is that since then the same thing has been more prevalent throughout the country as a whole. Just because it’s drizzling doesn’t mean it’s not raining. A police state can definitely be a thing in the United States given enough time and “good intentions”.

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IloveSeaFoood t1_j8xb5ci wrote

Yeah cuz that’s against the law doofus

Just cuz you get punished for BREAKING THE LAW that doesn’t make it a police state lmfao

You people need to travel

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Griffin808 t1_j8xdmz4 wrote

Getting killed for a “petty crime” is the definition of a police state. Dingleberry.

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IloveSeaFoood t1_j8xre7g wrote

He wasn’t intentionally killed. The state did not sanction an execution

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Griffin808 t1_j8xx1rp wrote

Nevertheless, the State killed him

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IloveSeaFoood t1_j8y1hqd wrote

You should join your local libertarian chapter to work towards reducing State control over our daily lives

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Speedyx t1_j8uc7x5 wrote

This isn't nypd, its Department of Corrections lol

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SolitaryMarmot t1_j8wzwck wrote

They should all be disciplined for breaking policy. The commanding officers should be fired.

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