Submitted by SelectiveSanity t3_zazzab in nottheonion
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miss_chapstick t1_iys728w wrote
It’s abhorrent. I suppose if I were her, I’d cut and run. She does have her family to consider, though.
fredthefishlord t1_iz0c7n1 wrote
She got on the plane. That might not be possible for her
TheDollyDollyQueen t1_izgp8ua wrote
Karma Loves to Bite Jerks!
Revolutionary_Eye887 t1_iyomuj2 wrote
If they overthrew the Shah, why can’t they overthrow the government wingnuts they have now?
Zou-KaiLi t1_iyqotjp wrote
The Iranian revolution was extremly popular with a broad consensus of Nationalists, Leftists and Islamists leading, organising and destroying the West's puppet. (Of course the Left was then also destroyed by the Islamists it heped put into power).
The current movement doesn't have Islamists or most Nationalists which is a massive chunk of the Iranian people. They can't flip the loyalty of the repressive state apparatus or overcome it due to Iran's investment in thugs, equipment and secret service.
TLDR: Modern revolution is more difficult and this revolt is less popular amongst the Iranian people.
kytheon t1_iyoseqf wrote
You think the Islamic regime would let them? They’re the ones who overthrew the shah and don’t allow the strategy against them
Revolutionary_Eye887 t1_iypjpqq wrote
Well, they managed to overthrow the Shah. He wasn’t a lightweight at controlling the population.
kytheon t1_iyq0yg8 wrote
With “they” you mean the Islamists that became the current regime. “They” are not going to do it again because they’re in power.
SHTHAWK t1_iyq5rz7 wrote
they are saying that the Islamist's overthrew the Shah when the Shah was powerful. Now the Islamist's are powerful but the citizens still have the ability to overthrow the government, just like the Shah was overthrown.....
Revolutionary_Eye887 t1_iys6sel wrote
Apparently, from the Iranian comments here, the population no longer has the will or means to overthrow their all powerful government regime. They are doomed forever to just be sheeple and go the way of Russians. Oh well, time to move on. Nothing to see here.
OldWierdo t1_iys27ii wrote
They also had help that they could rely on. They look around and see what happened when the Afghans tried to get rid of the Taliban, what happened when the Syrians tried to get rid of alAssad, what happened when the Kurds tried to get out - they don't trust their support, and they can't do it without support.
lucen15 t1_iyqcgh0 wrote
They didn't overthrow the shah, the us did.
cyb3rg0d5 t1_iyqivus wrote
And somehow you are getting downvoted.
lucen15 t1_iyqp5rs wrote
Doesn't matter :)
MrSchaudenfreude t1_iyrxmls wrote
Kermit Roosevelt
mrm00r3 t1_iyopx62 wrote
Not for nothing, but did you ever hear the story of the Zen master and the little boy?
Revolutionary_Eye887 t1_iypjsuu wrote
No.
mrm00r3 t1_iypqv61 wrote
We’ll see
dravik t1_iypad2f wrote
We'll see
PersianIncision t1_iyrw6a9 wrote
Because the Shah did not kill his own people mercilessly like the Mullahs. He left his own country peacefully and exiled himself. If only we could do the same now
its_a_metaphor_morty t1_iys1fzp wrote
Look up SAVAK. The Shah def kill his own people.
PersianIncision t1_iyslpi6 wrote
I’m well familiar with SAVAK lol, they didn’t shoot little children and protestors in the streets. Don’t talk about shit you only know from a wiki article
its_a_metaphor_morty t1_iysnn4l wrote
Sounds like you have some rose coloured glasses. Shah was a murdering fuck. But he was smart enough to get out when he did. Let's see if the latest murdering fucks are also smart.
VoraciousTrees t1_iysbq7h wrote
Well, you've got to factor in demographics and who has what to lose. If you are a religious man in Iran, overthrowing the current government will be a good way to screw yourself over.
Revolutionary_Eye887 t1_iysf72p wrote
So far I haven’t seen men doing much. Most of the resistance has been from women.
Revolutionary_Eye887 t1_iysf7mt wrote
So far I haven’t seen men doing much. Most of the resistance has been from women.
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CanadianShougun t1_iyqmk7x wrote
It takes time to rally for that change. I could see it happening in the next 5 years.
Semujin t1_iys5a7y wrote
Guns.
safe1x t1_iyqq8up wrote
Because the government wingnuts are the ones who overthrew the shah
Gloomy-Ad1171 t1_iyozwqf wrote
Because the CIA won’t let them?
Frasine t1_iyp4yvu wrote
Ah yes the CIA-backed Islamic Regime 👌
spartaman64 t1_iypvcyp wrote
Ever heard of the Mujahideen or operation cyclone?
PoorPDOP86 t1_iyp2rwq wrote
Yeah, since the CIA is to blame for everything. Damned Langley even took my socks.
Kewkky t1_iypvc7e wrote
Pretty sure the CIA also ruined my outdoor couch when my dog got accidentally locked in our sunroom.
bakedmaga2020 t1_iys9p9d wrote
CIA pissed in my bed while I was sleeping
Lucy_Gosling t1_iyqolqg wrote
Fuck Iran. Leave as soon as possible.
[deleted] t1_iyola1m wrote
It’s like the hunger games over there
Nekaz t1_iyrxxx3 wrote
It's like harry potter over there
black11000 t1_iys4i6u wrote
It's like Harry Games over there
iaintevenreadcatch22 t1_iys9sl3 wrote
it’s like hotter gary over there
cleomay5 t1_iyogm9a wrote
Good Grief
EvelcyclopS t1_iyrvi9v wrote
There’s so many wonderful countries in this world ruined by maniacal asshole governments. I’m fed up of it.
Dawnfreak t1_iypx471 wrote
Respect our culture /s
BannanaCommie t1_iyreclh wrote
I don’t think that has anything to do with culture and instead just an authoritarian government doing authoritarian things.
CrawlerSiegfriend t1_iys9zb8 wrote
That moment when you are desperately scrolling looking for someone to lay into and after not finding anyone you just decide the "/s" comment good enough.
BannanaCommie t1_iysgcu9 wrote
The /s wasn’t there when I made my comment.
HereForGames t1_iytr1v2 wrote
Edited comments have an asterisk next to them. The exception is if they are edited in the first few minutes after they are posted. Your comment came 10 hours after theirs.
Why you lyin', bro?
6epp t1_iyrhdmb wrote
What does culture have to do with this? Racists always jump at any opportunity to out themselves. Kudos
kezar23 t1_iyrncda wrote
I think he's refering to how those same authoritarian regimes often use "culture" as an excuse to do horrible shit.
FlockFlysAtMidnite t1_iyrr6qj wrote
I don't respect the culture the Iranian regime is violently imposing on it's people, especially women and LGBT+ people. It's disgusting, it's backwards, and it shouldn't exist. Women are literally beaten to death for showing their hair in public. That's not a culture anyone should be respecting.
emergency-rroom t1_iys6r6u wrote
I might be wrong, but i heard that going against the supreme leader is considered “going against god”. that’s crazy enough as is
GabeTheJerk t1_iyrv483 wrote
Been living under a rock aint cha?
Qatar got critized as a choice to host the World cup because... They are a fucking shit hole nation with some of the worst human rights.
Qatars defense was that slavery, legal rape, vaginal mutilation, etc are all apart of their culture so it's okay for them to do it.
I'm Canadian, following their logic I should be allowed to kill natives. Its our culture
Dawnfreak t1_iyrowff wrote
Racist ? LMAO. 🤡
beebop4677 t1_iyrqtp0 wrote
She showed the whole world her hair. It's clear that the appropriate response is for us to destroy her home and everything in it.
random123me t1_iytc6oh wrote
whilst harming people who weren't involved nor do we know if they support her in doing it. *sigh*
aknb t1_iyrz40h wrote
Iran following on Israel's footsteps. Demolishing people's homes because of politics is kind of their thing.
AssociateJaded3931 t1_iys5vzy wrote
One of the many benefits of living under an authoritarian theocracy.
DeeIceBerg t1_iysbtwr wrote
Shitty country does shitty things
Paytene t1_iyu6pog wrote
There is videos pictures.
There is massive food poisoning reported in the last week at three notable universities. Coincidence? Absolutely not, when you consider that it’s precisely those university students who have been the most vocal proponents of freedom democracy.
Why_am_I_here033 t1_iyrrrb0 wrote
If all the protesters can leave the country, iran would be in big trouble.
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hoosierma t1_iysgw80 wrote
I wish I knew how hell and could start a gofundme to publicly help them out as a statement —- and to help them and people like them. I don’t know how to manage such things. Keep me posted?
LarYungmann t1_iyss639 wrote
Evil ways.
Cayfish t1_iyua5l2 wrote
It’s insane how obsessed religious extremists are with a piece of cloth that they force women to wear on their heads. Religions like Islam ruin everything.
jaydeetol t1_iyrq9vp wrote
Yeah, let's let them have a nuclear warhead.
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univalence t1_iyqf5m9 wrote
No. All she did was appear in a competition without a headscarf.
skepticcaucasian t1_iyqh62h wrote
Oh, jeez. She definitely deserves lots of respect.
Enzown t1_iyq97qg wrote
That's clearly a woman
Falcoholic81 t1_iysbi2c wrote
I do feel like these are the fruits of cultural relativism. The idea that because there is a custom in a place it should be respected by default.
lolzatzeedisco t1_iyscowq wrote
If Elnaz was expecting literally anything other than extreme prejudice and retaliation for breaking protocol then she’s a fool.
I hate to keep repeating this, but when you’re subject to certain rules in a country A, then go abroad and break those rules and publicly criticize country A, then you should sure as heck not be on the return flight to country A. Also, nothing that matters to you in the least, in any way or form, should be in country A.
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autom8r t1_iypv949 wrote
What's even more fucked up is that in order to leave the country she was forced to give the Iranian Climbing Association power of attorney to sell her family's property (as well as a $35,000 bond) in order to ensure she came back to Iran after competition!
So those fuckers wait until she gets on the plane, and then they destroy the very collateral they held over her head to return to that shithole!
What a bunch of coward fucks, pisses me off how cruel they are. Luckily the cruel always turn on their own, and they are the biggest fucking cry babies when their time comes.