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notpaultx t1_iu6fx4e wrote

Take the payouts, cause the layoffs are coming

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WSTTXS t1_iu6oddd wrote

It’s for workers 55 years or older, probably trying to avoid pension payouts

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nochinzilch t1_iu9ll6l wrote

It depends on the deal, but buyouts are usually about cutting payroll, not cutting pensions. So instead of paying someone $1 million in pay over the next 10 years, they'll pay them $250k to stop working, and then contribute $100,000 to the pension fund to account for the loss in contributions that would have been made in the next 10 years. When the employee turns 65, they take their pension just as if they had worked those ten years. It's a win-win-win if a company has too much talent on the payroll for the expected workload over the next 10 years, and also has some excess revenue they want to try to write off. And the employee gets a semi-funded early retirement.

I can't speak for all pensions, but the ones I am familiar with are simple annuity types of things. For every year you work, an amount of money is put into the fund. That money is invested so that on the other end, when you retire, there is enough money to pay out what they promised you. There's no real trickery involved, it's just actuarial math.

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NoBrains-NoGains t1_iudmseg wrote

>no real trickery involved

Unless some d-bag gets to dip into that fund for other stuff like they did for social security.

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StandUpForYourWights t1_iu6gbh4 wrote

Absolutely. Buyouts allowing you to leave an industry in massive stress, that's a no brainer

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spoonyfork t1_iu8loz9 wrote

Do they even have any pensions left after all of the mergers, sell offs, cuts, and bankruptcies? I don’t know who works for Stellantis anymore.

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