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Mission-Meaning377 t1_j2fx0k5 wrote
This is the same sub that a month ago said those neighborhoods are just fine to move into and your a bigot if your think otherwise.
SkiingAway t1_j2exc8c wrote
Yeah, the entire rest of the city had....6 homicides, from a skim of that list.
FoodGuy44 t1_j2eupfr wrote
Maybe stop killing each other? 🤷🏻♂️
jamseph t1_j2fc1ra wrote
The reason this is such a fucking shitty take, and it is a very fucking shitty take, is that those communities are impoverished beyond their control. You might as well ask poor people why they don't just buy a vacation home or a yacht. It's ignorant and almost purposefully avoids addressing the real problem.
Frunk2 t1_j2ff459 wrote
You realize there are tons of poor people, including in these neighborhoods, that don’t break any laws right? We’re talking about less than a hundred murderers in a city of 700k. Comparing it to why rich people buy yachts is frankly ridiculous. Rich people aren’t victimized when their neighbor buys a yacht
BandwagonReaganfan t1_j2ffx2s wrote
>We’re talking about less than a hundred murderers in a city of 8M.
8 Million??? You must be lost, this isn't New York. The number you are looking for is 650k.
Frunk2 t1_j2fgk2n wrote
Yeah corrected I did ma population from top of head not boston
Alternative_Nail1632 t1_j2foos7 wrote
There are a ton of very poor Central Americans in Boston and they almost never kill each other. Poverty is part of it but not the whole problem
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OldCoaly t1_j2ftw12 wrote
You took a bad take and made it so much worse. Seemed like you were about to make a point about the correlations between crime and poverty, something with nuance that you could use to then talk about how these communities aren’t being served well with the current way programs, resources, and transport options reach them or how crime may fill a role an individual could have addressed better with more assistance from the city, community, whatever. But then you just asked how anyone can expect lower income citizens to not kill people, like it’s something in poor peoples nature that can’t be overcome. They are people too.
jamseph t1_j2fxf0i wrote
Not what I meant, but I see how you could think that. Poor people are trapped in a neverending cycle of poverty. Asking them not to resort to extremes, like crime, is an unreasonable expectation when basic necessities can't reasonably be met through other means. My intention was to point out the ignorance associated with the question " why don't they just stop killing each other?"
Alex01854 t1_j2fq1j8 wrote
The fact that’s a certain lifestyle is glamorized amongst certain groups is more problematic than them growing up in poor neighborhoods.
FoodGuy44 t1_j2fcpeu wrote
Agree to disagree
Ok_Fact4397 t1_j2epe0x wrote
I don’t know why people can’t just… not kill other people
Edit: downvoters are probably the suspects
yas_man t1_j2fvml2 wrote
There's very little reporting on some of these, including the 14 year old child. Very unfortunate hypernormalization going on here
mikehoncho1955 t1_j2f3ukx wrote
Pour out some liquor for them tonight.
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Victor_Korchnoi t1_j2f85ex wrote
This doesn’t include the ~30 people killed by drivers in Boston
LookAtThesePericles t1_j2ffycy wrote
Murder has a specific legal definition, so that makes sense.
jvpewster t1_j2fp68i wrote
There isn’t a thread in which radicalized Bike Gang of Boston will not inject itself. It’s legitimately my favorite part of this sub.
LookAtThesePericles t1_j2fppcw wrote
Skipped brain day at the gym, that's for sure.
jvpewster t1_j2fqs9c wrote
I’m only half being ironic. I’ve honestly never witnessed a grassroots initiative started before my eyes and it’s been fascinating to watch over the last 4 years in the US. I’m rooting for Bike Gang.
I don’t think equating a traffic accident with murder can be anything other then rhetorical though, so I do honestly agree with what you replied. Just want to make sure Bike Gang knows I’m one of the Good Ones and won’t bash me with a kickstand in 5 years when this inevitably reaches its boiling point
LookAtThesePericles t1_j2fr7ao wrote
Wait which bikers are you talking about? The vroom vroom I like how the vibration feels on my taint ones or the ones that blow through stop signs and red lights in their compression pants?
yas_man t1_j2furjf wrote
Bike gang sends its regards. Just mark your door with a little x in bike grease. It will help when the day of reckoning comes
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PMSfishy t1_j2eizjs wrote
Not bad, Chicago had ~600. There does seem to be a theme to the deaths.....
RhaenyrasUncle t1_j2eye6n wrote
I read they're on pace for closer to 700+
nonitalic t1_j2f8owt wrote
Chicago is also 4x the population of Boston. Still quadruple the murder rate, but not 16x.
bbc733 t1_j2fjj7d wrote
Population of Chicago is no excuse for how shitty that place is for crime
Alternative_Nail1632 t1_j2eonkr wrote
Not even one white victim, is that right? I guess the three without pics could be white but their surnames do sound common names for POC families (honest idk). It’s pretty damn sad.
Frunk2 t1_j2f45eq wrote
Whats sad about that? Not enough white people died of gun violence this year for you?
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Frunk2 t1_j2fbz25 wrote
You realize that the vast majority of these murders were also committed by black people right? Overall Boston still has an extremely low murder rate per capita so how is this some kind of racist issue?
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Frunk2 t1_j2fe0wk wrote
Because it’s a predominantly black neighborhood? Again the murder rate is lower than many cities in America so idk what you’re upset about. It sounds like you wish there were more white victims or perpetrators of murder in Boston.
Cal__Trask t1_j2fhvgn wrote
While I can't speak to the specific offenders in these cases, I can say that statistically murder victims of all races are overwhelmingly killed by members of their own race. So blacks tend to kill blacks, whites tend to kill whites, etc. Of course these are general trends, not hard and fast rules but I see no evidence to suggest that Boston is some sort of outlier.
From the article:
According to the FBI’s Expanded Homicide data from 2018, the most recent report of this kind Reuters was able to find ( here ), 80.7% of the murders of white people were committed by white offenders (2,677 of a total of 3,315) while 15.5% of the murders of white people were committed by Black offenders (514).
The social media post also alleges white offenders committed 2% of the murders of Black victims. According to the FBI’s data, 8% of the reported murders of Black people were committed by white offenders (234 of a total of 2,925) and 88.9% by Black offenders (2,600).
FBI data from 2017 also follows this trend: 80.2% of white victims were killed by white offenders, 8.9% of Black victims were killed by whites, 88.5% of Black victims were killed by Blacks, and 16.1% of whites were killed by Blacks ( here ).
trqzn t1_j2fj4e1 wrote
Funny how poverty causes crime
MichaelPsellos t1_j2fcox9 wrote
The overwhelming majority of POC who are murdered are killed by other POC. Racism may not be a major factor here.
Alternative_Nail1632 t1_j2fh4nb wrote
Explain….I don’t understand. Do you think racism caused the murders in Boston?
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CompetitiveInhibitor t1_j2esum8 wrote
Pretty sad to look at, 90% Dorchester, Mattapan, Roxbury and nearly 100% minority citizens. Terrible terrible stuff.