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megalomike t1_ivq34xu wrote
probably the only people on earth who can tell the difference between a philly and bmore accent are people from one of those two places. or that guy who does those videos.
No_name_Johnson t1_ivq3ew6 wrote
I've lived here my whole life and I can just barely tell the difference in accents. They're really, really similar.
megalomike t1_ivq3k6t wrote
the guy who (according to wikipedia) invented sociolinguistics lumped them into one accent.
drillpublisher t1_ivv4b3i wrote
Dummy vs Dickhead duh
jabbadarth t1_ivqsz5f wrote
Same architecture too.
Throwaway2theplate t1_ivr8er8 wrote
Arn?
KingBooRadley t1_ivq78at wrote
I lived in Philly before moving here. I don’t see it.
Philly seems hostile to me. When I got here I was shocked that people you don’t know will just greet you on the street.
Philly had much better food, but Baltimore is catching up.
Philly is a proper city. Baltimore is a big town.
YoYoMoMa t1_ivqfodv wrote
Philly also has functional transit.
the-denver-nugs t1_ivsc2xd wrote
ehhhhhhh I heard the same. went to philly this year. tried to take transit to the basketball arena. it was a homeless shelter in the subway, like tents all over. walked back up and took an uber.
jabbadarth t1_ivqt56a wrote
Personally I think Baltimore is half philly and half Richmond. We have the same architecture and accents as Philly but a slower feel and more casual laid back people like a more southern city like Richmond.
Jtwohy t1_ivrizhb wrote
To be fair we were a slave state in the union and south of the Mason Dixon line kinda makes sense our culture is a bastard hybridization of both
the-denver-nugs t1_ivsby42 wrote
ehhhhhh i'm from richmond. baltimore is richmond but like richmond 20 years ago. also what is people greeting you on the street? baltimore people are like richmond when it was ghetto, they greet you to ask for a cig or money lmao. nobody else talks to strangers here. I had more convos with strangers when I visited with strangers in philly this year and in richmond this year dispite living in baltimore full time and only going to philly/richmond for a week each.
KingBooRadley t1_iwggw03 wrote
Actually, I think people just don't greet YOU on the street. Please consider how you present yourself. From what I can see, it's not a good look.
the-denver-nugs t1_iwnj0mo wrote
again i have lived in other cities. did you disregard that part?
Hisyphus t1_ivr1krv wrote
To be fair, many (many) years ago, Baltimore was a big city
ronswanson11 t1_ivreesk wrote
It will be again.
Hisyphus t1_ivrlqxo wrote
God I hope so!
A_P_Dahset t1_ivvmcjf wrote
This part. Baltimore is a city running significantly under capacity, and a city that for a number of reasons, has not been able to make the public investments in infrastructure needed to re-densify and grow---this is particularly true in the housing and transportation/transit sectors. A focus on upgrading housing stock and expanding mass transit infrastructure is an economic development and population growth strategy in itself. Given Baltimore's history as a major industrial hub and much larger city, the "Smalltimore" term actually bothers me a bit. For reference, as of the 2020 Census, Baltimore is smaller than Boston, DC, and Seattle for the first time in US history---if we had serious leadership around here, they would take note and be thinking in terms of what moves do we need to make to catch up and compete with these formerly "little sister" cities.
schmatteganai t1_ivqso23 wrote
Philly is meaner and has more potholes; I would argue Baltimore's food is better on average (although Philly has more good high-end options) with the exceptions of Chinese food, pizza, and cheesesteaks. Philadelphia currently has a more functional city government and a larger population, although that varies from decade to decade.
But on most other counts, they're very similar cities culturally.
I don't think the accents are that similar, though.
FortWendy69 t1_ivr1rbt wrote
I mean if your exceptions are cheesesteak and pizza, what’s left at that point?
Alexexy t1_ivs97vs wrote
We got pretty solid Ethiopian food.
FortWendy69 t1_ivtsox6 wrote
Thanks for the tip. Particular place recs? Low budget if possible.
Alexexy t1_ivtu470 wrote
They're not particularly expensive. I know of only 2, Dukem and Tabor. I personally like Dukem more but I had this really good Ethiopian beer at Tabor. If you're ever motivated to cook your own African food, Tabor is located right next to an African food market.
Oh, and I want to expand on the initial comment I made. We also have a pretty decent seafood and if you're willing to travel out to Ellicott City, there's a bustling korean/Asian food scene.
schmatteganai t1_ivvquiw wrote
Seafood, Korean, West African, Ethiopian, Soul Food, Greek Food, non-pizza Italian, Salvadoran, Mexican, Vietnamese, ice cream......the best thing about Baltimore's food scene, though, is that the cheap-to-mid places are usually excellent, not just the $$$ places. A lot of cities- Philly included- don't have that level of just baseline commitment to good food on behalf of people opening up restaurants.
FortWendy69 t1_ivx9cbi wrote
stahp, youre making me hungry. I really gotta try these ethiopian places i keep hearing about
professorparmesan t1_ivqtsjq wrote
Yes!!! I’ve always thought Philly has a hostile vibe too. People here are by and large much friendlier and more welcoming to outsiders
the-denver-nugs t1_ivsc8f3 wrote
people in baltimore are not friendly??? i'm from richmond, va. prefer philly for friendly people. i live in baltimore and have taken a vacation in philly this year. everyone was fine.
professorparmesan t1_ivsvoo4 wrote
I’ve lived in both cities, so my view is informed by that
PleaseBmoreCharming t1_ivrpctp wrote
Baltimore could be a "big city" if the county and city were to formally merge and create some more cohesive urban form between the two. I think you could do this by focusing more growth/development on the former arterial corridors like York Road, Edmondson Ave, Harford Road. I mean, you're looking at over 1.4 million people who live within the city limits AND within the County's Urban/rural demarcation line. If that's not a "big city" I don't what is. I can't think of another place in the Western world where that wouldn't be considered such.
Infinite_Magnetic7 t1_ivu359b wrote
Good points, but the "powers-that-be" seem to want Baltimore to stay this "little old country town by the bay".
PhiladelphiaManeto t1_ivrnach wrote
If you really live in / are from Philly, it’s also a big town.
logaboga t1_ivre77k wrote
Well, baltimore does literally mean “big town” in Irish
hsfe5 t1_ivrvro7 wrote
I have family in Delaware Co., PA. Agree about the Philly vibe. Baltimore people are not as hostile.
NullHypothesisProven t1_ivrzqn8 wrote
Idk Philly was really nice to me. You’re right about the food though.
AdDue1062 t1_ivtebh1 wrote
I've lived in most major East Coast cities and Philly feels just as small as Baltimore compared to both NYC and Toronto. Baltimore is barely smaller than DC.
Infinite_Magnetic7 t1_ivu2lwg wrote
Philly has always been hostile place as far as I can remember. Still a lot of good, hard-working people up there.
roseapoth t1_ivqm788 wrote
I've lived in both places and I really don't see it. I think the vibes are completely different.
ColdJay64 t1_ivrg71u wrote
Me too. People are just saying this because of rowhomes, besides that they couldn’t be more different.
the-denver-nugs t1_ivsbgvq wrote
meh name a more similar city. i've been up and down the east coast. philly is the only one close. it used to be richmond around 2010, but it's getting heavily gentrified from out of towners of late. (I'm from richmond, VA) maybe atlanta but not really. charlotte maybe?
ColdJay64 t1_ivt9g7q wrote
Baltimore reminds me of a combination of Richmond and Norfolk, more than any other one city. I went to college in Norfolk (ODU), and my brother lives in Richmond (Church Hill). I also lived in Baltimore for two years, and am now in my third year in Philly.
On an individual neighborhood level, there are some similarities between parts of Philly and Bmore, but the amount of gentrification, relative lack of blight, walkability, and sheer amount of people make Philly feel a lot different. There's also a level of wealth and young families that you just don't see in Baltimore neighborhoods. Same goes for the amount of retail and shopping, and relative lack of business vacancy. Baltimore is a large built environment but feels deserted.
Lastly, Center City is a top downtown in the country in terms of population (2nd or 3rd most populated), walkability, and population density. It feels like a true large city. Downtown Baltimore is more deserted than downtown Richmond, and has practically no new development beyond 414 Light and the new M&T building on Light.
Regarding Atlanta and Charlotte, I think they have a lot of similarities to each other.
the-denver-nugs t1_iw4wi3x wrote
holy shit didn't even think about norfolk. that is such a better example. philly I agree is just so much bigger but similar vibes imo. norfolk/richmond combo is a perfect discription. I live on light right next to the M&t building lol. grew up in richmond and have spent time in norfolk.
cheeseburger12345 t1_ivqynof wrote
Also lived in both and I completely agree with you.
joeyisbomb t1_ivs1h04 wrote
Same here raised in Baltimore and lived in Philly for five years they are VERY different especially today
Infinite_Magnetic7 t1_ivu11as wrote
As a Baltimore native (with family/friends in Philadelphia), I partially agree with your sentiments. Now, depending on the neighborhoods, there are some similarities between the two. Overall, the vibe, accents, culture are different.
AdDue1062 t1_ivtds79 wrote
I have also lived in both and out of all East Coast cities, Philly is absolutely the closest to Baltimore and it's not even close. Few very nice spots and disaster everywhere else. Huge drug and crime problems. Similar markets and restaurant scene (although Philly has much better versions of both). Massive universities predominantly focused on medicine. Other industries are quite similar as well. Hell, similar accents that you don't hear anywhere else. Football fans who like teams everyone else either hate or ignore. Dive bars are carbon copies. Pretty crappy Chinese and Mexican food in both cities. Economically, very similar demographics even though racial blend is different. Baltimore has a much more extensive marina as a differentiator, but it's not like Richmond is more extensive than Philly. Roads are in severe disrepair in both cities. I can't even think of many ways they're different outside of size.
The only way for a city to be more like Baltimore on the EC is if Richmond and Norfolk merged.
Espantapajaro t1_ivr8cgh wrote
Philly is waaayyyy more alive imo.
SnooHedgehogs6553 t1_ivq2hg5 wrote
Similar to Philly but definitely has a vibe similar to Richmond.
Both have a great quirky Christmas parade the first weekend of December.
SnooHedgehogs6553 t1_ivq2y24 wrote
Philly does have formstone.
the-denver-nugs t1_ivscd8j wrote
I'm from richmond. batlimore is richmond 15/20 years ago, not now.
Infinite_Magnetic7 t1_ivu24cz wrote
It has some similarities, but Philly's Center City is much better than Baltimore's downtown. It feels more vibrant, cultural and eccentric.
mrm0324 t1_ivq03a5 wrote
Love visiting Philly. People are mostly very cool there. Told some people I was from Baltimore and they told me how they visited recently and had a great time. Contrast that with people from NYC who ask me if it’s like the wire and look surprised I haven’t been murdered yet.
UnkleHoodle t1_ivqo9j8 wrote
I was talking to a guy in times square once and he asked me where I was from and I said Baltimore, his only response was “oh shit” I’m like nah bro it’s not like that lol
Fyrestar333 t1_ivrf96w wrote
Damn I always got the question "Aren't you afraid you will get shot in baltimore" when I went to visit family in west Virginia. I hate Philly side streets compared to Baltimore that's about it.
librarytracy t1_ivq9opm wrote
Most like Pittsburgh but that’s not quite east coast.
Typical-Radish4317 t1_ivqbit4 wrote
Yeah the vibrant communities with a lacking city center, and nonsense traffic patterns really pushes it more towards Pittsburgh in my opinion. Every city on this list has a pretty cool city center
jabbadarth t1_ivqt7rx wrote
Which makes it so funny that we have such a rivalry/hatred with them.
logaboga t1_ivrecrk wrote
Imo it’s like brothers having a rivalry with each other. You’re so similar that you know the most small criticisms of each other that will really hurt
NationalMyth t1_ivriicw wrote
Pittsburgh architecture is waaaaay more disjointed and the roads are way weirder tho. Love that city.
Kerry_Kittles t1_ivrnm1j wrote
Bmore is the only city that’s in the Northeast Midwest and South
LittleCrumb t1_ivrpmu6 wrote
How is Baltimore in the Midwest?
Kerry_Kittles t1_ivrslqk wrote
Check out the Ravens division
ohitsanazn t1_ivr1tst wrote
Philly is a ruder Baltimore.
Baltimore is a dirtier, kinder Philly.
DfcukinLite t1_ivs99xo wrote
Filthidelphia. Baltimore is much cleaner
NYerInTex t1_ivqnun5 wrote
It’s really a lotta Philly but the size of Boston.
Blue collar. Great older housing stock. Tremendous histories. Both waterfront but not seaside
dry-assbananabread t1_ivrwrbu wrote
As a Bostonian who now lives in Baltimore I can promise you, Baltimore is definitely not like Boston.
mcflynnthm t1_ivtpqqh wrote
definitely. I moved to Baltimore from Boston about 10 years ago and still sometimes marvel at how different the two cities are.
HorsieJuice t1_ivs9qw3 wrote
There are pockets of similarities. Hampden has a similar vibe to Somerville or Medford. Fells feels like some parts of downtown. Baltimore is cheaper and more approachable, obviously.
HyBear t1_ivriuwa wrote
I always say NOLA has a lot of similarities if you don’t consider the attractions of the Quarter and the hub of music.
Both are inland ports, both have a similar inner city culture, both are run by highly suspect politicians and when shit hit the fan (riots an d floods) both got mocked nationally, both are seafood dining destinations both have iconic symbols (our flag and the Fluer De Lis)
chumbawumba_bruh t1_ivrskrw wrote
I lived in New Orleans for the last decade and agree. Gritty old port cities that have been decimated from deindustrialization, are super friendly, love seafood, and have weird accents.
AMildPhenomenon t1_ivu30c1 wrote
Also oddly enough, a lot of Maryland transplants in NOLA. Every time I visit I meet more people from here!
chumbawumba_bruh t1_ivu5388 wrote
Eh lots of transplants from everywhere these days.
MrRich1972 t1_ivqk1ts wrote
I'm going to edge west and say St. Louis.
sadisticsuzanne t1_ivr8j80 wrote
My thoughts exactly! The only difference is the lack of “row” houses in STL. Urban blight- check! Corrupt officials-check! Rampant crime-check! Im from the Lou(🤫) and choose to call Bmore home. You can enjoy vastly different terrain and cities almost instantly here❤️
MrRich1972 t1_ivv1fss wrote
I got of the Greyhound in St. Louis in 95 and started walking toward the grocery store across that big ass lot. At least 2 cats followed me. I said, ahhh, reminds me of home. In sight of the world famous gateway to the west.
The_Waxies_Dargle t1_ivrpxy8 wrote
The correct answer is Pittsburgh. Both ethnic cities made up of neighborhoods. Both got the shit kicked out of them by de-industrialization. Sports towns. Funny accents. Pittsburgh is better on race, Baltimore is more culturally progressive.
However, Pgh reinvented itself in the 70s and is booming.
Pittsburgh is the Wes Moore we just elected.
Baltimore is the other Wes Moore.
mindfulminx t1_ivt1vqf wrote
Having lived in Philly and Baltimore, this is the correct answer. A blue-collar port city that loves its sports and unique culture. It's also a very friendly town, just like Bmore.
ScootyHoofdorp t1_ivt9km7 wrote
Pittsburgh lost population from 2010 to 2020. There are surely good things happening, but booming is a bit of a stretch.
A_P_Dahset t1_ivvn28h wrote
>Pittsburgh is the Wes Moore we just elected. Baltimore is the other Wes Moore.
🤣🤣🤣
blm_26 t1_ivzrf1x wrote
I couldn’t disagree more, Pittsburgh and Baltimore are literally nothing alike other than both being cities.
DarthBlart69 t1_ivr5o57 wrote
If we had a hockey team, a basketball team, and a Chinatown we would be liked more too.
SpecificExtent3356 t1_ivror7u wrote
Whenever I am in Philly I feel at home. It’s just bigger. But it’s always love in that city
hsfe5 t1_ivrvfxj wrote
Not East Coast but IMO The city that is most like Baltimore is New Orleans. My best friend lives in Baltimore and I went to college and lived in New Orleans for many years. So many similarities.
epzik8 t1_ivqlpz1 wrote
None of those are comparable to Baltimore, not even DC.
DizmalDoctor t1_ivqsxsh wrote
Philly, then Richmond, Boston, DC, and NY. I would say DC and NY are somewhat interchangeable, but because of DMV proximity there are some similarities (although DC folks hate to be compared to Baltimore).
helppplbuthateppl t1_ivrgt2j wrote
Having grown up in Richmond, it feels like Richmond’s love child with Boston
DizmalDoctor t1_ivrnupo wrote
This is super astute-yes totally agree!
AmaniArk t1_ivqzxam wrote
It's more like Cleveland but I guess we will just say Philly
Mildred_RatchedRN t1_ivqdq64 wrote
In the 90s, Richmond. Today? DC or Philadelphia
addctd2badideas t1_ivqnjpj wrote
I used to call Richmond the "Baltimore of the South."
I don't call it that anymore.
Mildred_RatchedRN t1_ivvn3c2 wrote
Richmond nowadays is very nice (I've lived there) with some relatively small problematic spots (southside, parts of northeast). NOTHING like Baltimore
Bonethug609 t1_ivqqrvx wrote
Philly bc of the accent. But people need to realize how small the population of Baltimore really is. Getting Smaller too
ScootyHoofdorp t1_ivt9sh7 wrote
Yeah, I'm pretty sure people are aware of that.
Bonethug609 t1_ivr60cp wrote
Purchase prices In Philly average over 300k. But aiight bro
AlanRunner_ODamn t1_ivr0jpa wrote
NY lmao
AgentNose t1_ivqopse wrote
I spend time weekly in all of these except Boston, where I did spend four days in 2019. Definitely Philly.
ElectroGhandi t1_ivqq62k wrote
Philadelphia is the correct answer but I don't think Boston is too far off either, with the waterfront/harbor areas and some of the architecture.
IheartPickleSoda t1_ivr6w3x wrote
Memphis isn’t “east” but it’s a similar city.
BoysenberryNo4959 t1_ivrgabl wrote
Definitely Philly. They have a similar industrial past.
Unfair-Rip9168 t1_ivrj459 wrote
Brooklyn is a lot like bmore
SpiritualBox6741 t1_ivrjk1o wrote
Philly has rowhomes
zaxonortesus t1_ivrzu1l wrote
This is an accurate pole. Philly feels like Boston and Baltimore had a child.
franckieworld t1_ivs7qb0 wrote
what about detroit?
MrBurittoThePizza t1_ivs9d75 wrote
Out of these choices it’s obviously Philly but New Orleans and Baltimore has a very similar feel. Charm city
S-Kunst t1_ivsr2ts wrote
Not Boston. Boston has always been a city of the arts. It also was not the industrial hub as Baltimore was.
I lived in Philly in 1979, and see many of Baltimore's aspects in that town, though Philly is larger, was more prosperous. nor was part of the Jim Crow south. The neighboring townships were more developed and were not just farm settlements.
Richmond is a good contender, though it had less industry, but very much contained the Jim Crow aspects.
mescaleeto t1_ivt0jz2 wrote
i’ve found new orleans to have some similar feeling to baltimore
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addctd2badideas t1_ivqnfsv wrote
Philly but their infrastructure is way better.
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SnooJokes9069 t1_ivrb4fa wrote
I find it funny Philadelphia natives don't think they are similar to Baltimore at all but Baltimore natives on the other hand sort of want to be more like Philadelphia than like Baltimore. Sort of explains the big brother little brother vibe.
l_rufus_californicus t1_ivrf329 wrote
Grew up in Philly first eighteen years of my life, lived & worked in Baltimore next 25-plus.
They’re the same city. Anyone can’t see it just doesn’t want to.
SnooJokes9069 t1_ivrhz7h wrote
The accents especially.
l_rufus_californicus t1_ivrzvci wrote
The other nice part is that I didn’t have to change the orange & black part of my wardrobe. I may always root for the Phils, but I’ll always root for the O’s, too. And since my other area hockey choice is the Caps, I’s rather be dead than not be a Flyers fan.
We could talk ships, waterfronts, iconic locations… both cities have defining landmarks that are almost so similar, it’d seem intentional if you didn’t know it wasn’t.
FatherSpacetime t1_ivrcmsr wrote
Detroit
daveed4445 t1_ivrdrbi wrote
Wilmington
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_ivrukni wrote
“Too small” -Tracy Jordan
philosofically t1_ivrs7ur wrote
reminds me of this tweet saying basically how dc and nyc are cousins, and philly and baltimore are cousins have only been around tourism philly but i feel like they’ve nicer up there, not a coincidence that every polite person/group i’ve met working in dc ends up being from philly
iammaxhailme t1_ivrvsxh wrote
I've only spent a lot of time in NY, NJ, DC and MD but definitely not NYC or DC from my limited list. some of the nicer parts of baltimore feel a bit like hoboken
zadillo t1_ivs1kak wrote
I lived in DC and Baltimore and visited Philly a few times, and Philly and Baltimore felt like they had the most in common to me
AlphaWhiskey70 t1_ivs3g44 wrote
Providence
Clam_Latte t1_ivsttez wrote
I knew yous wouldn’t let me down.
No-Lunch4249 t1_ivszagj wrote
Surprised to see Richmond doing so well. Spent a month there once and didn’t really feel it was similar to Baltimore
krelay22 t1_ivt940g wrote
You literally picked the 4 exact opposite cities, then philly. Was this even a poll
ScootyHoofdorp t1_ivt95s9 wrote
Who said Boston?
Infinite_Magnetic7 t1_ivu1ut2 wrote
Baltimore is a mix of Richmond, Philly, East New York, Camden, NJ, some parts of the Bronx and North Carolina all thrown together.
An old retired Army vet friend of mine describes Baltimore as...
"A ghetto over a country town."
Infinite_Magnetic7 t1_ivu4y67 wrote
I picked up this elderly passenger who moved from Richmond, VA. to Baltimore about 25 years ago and asked why he moved up here, he said "Baltimore is much more diverse than Richmond".
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Due-Object9460 t1_ivzm9p4 wrote
Crazy to me because I HATE philly but I love it here in Baltimore.
A_P_Dahset t1_iwglo8r wrote
Interesting comment. Why do you hate Philly and what do you think Balto offers that Philly doesn't? Asking because I've also lived in both places.
Due-Object9460 t1_iwgvsd0 wrote
Philly just felt extremely claustrophobic to me. Stayed in a "safer" neighborhood but still didn't feel like it was at all. People were not all that friendly.
A_P_Dahset t1_iwgxycv wrote
Gotcha. I can see Philly being less friendly than Baltimore; others have mentioned that as well. At the same time, I had a friend living here in Patterson Park who moved down from Philly, who always talked about how unsafe she felt in PP and in Bmore, as a single woman, compared to living in Philly. I think in both cities violent crime is somewhat concentrated and perceptions of safety depend on how close you are to those concentrated areas, tho in Bmore due to the relative smallness, it's easier to be closer to crime. But I could be wrong, just my personal observation...
blm_26 t1_ivzrvwf wrote
The answer is definitely Philly. If you actually know people born and bred in both cities, you know that native Philly and native Baltimore folks are the same for the most part. Baltimore is the little bro of Philly.
ColdJay64 t1_ivrfqib wrote
Having lived in DC, Baltimore, and Philly - Baltimore is not much like either DC or Philly. The ONLY thing in common with Philly is rowhomes. Bmore is beautifully situated on a harbor with many hills. It’s also half deserted (downtown especially), and feels quite sleepy.
Philly is huge, chaotic, vibrant, and has a ton of foot traffic along with one of the best downtowns in the country. There is significantly more wealth in Philly. Baltimore has no comparison to Rittenhouse Square (closest thing being Mount Vernon but no), Old City, Fishtown, University City, Fairmount, etc.
Baltimore is like Norfolk, VA combined with Richmond.
PhiladelphiaManeto t1_ivrnhv8 wrote
Harbor East feels comparably wealthy to Rittenhouse
ColdJay64 t1_ivrwgla wrote
In my opinion they are just entirely different in terms of scale and feel - but Harbor East is very nice, I haven’t even been back since they opened new Whole Foods.
I wish Philly had somewhere like the Sandlot.
ScootyHoofdorp t1_ivta7de wrote
Philly has more total wealth, sure, but Baltimoreans actually have 10% higher income per capita.
KissMyConverse07 t1_ivrkkau wrote
The answers Philly…. However the #2 closest comparison you don’t have listed. Take out the weather and Charleston and Baltimore remind me a lot of each other.
chumbawumba_bruh t1_ivrsqir wrote
Charleston is way too fancy and stuck up though. It’s also much more of a beach town.
Baltimorons t1_ivrtigl wrote
Buffalo isn’t on the list but it’s pretty similar with the dead industry.
ButterscotchWitty325 t1_ivvum57 wrote
Am from Buffalo, lived in Baltimore for a few years. I always said it felt like a bigger version of home with better weather.
the-denver-nugs t1_ivsbc5s wrote
Philly. i'm from richmond, va. been too NY as well, boston, rhode island, atlanta, charlotte. it's philly period. richmond used to be close but of late tons of people from NJ and NOVA of all places have been moving there.
Cunninghams_right t1_ivqqnvx wrote
maybe when we flush all of our politicians with the term limits we just passed, we can convince some Philly city government folks to move here. Philly always seems like Baltimore but with more competent leadership and without the state resource drain that is DC
EfficiencySuch6361 t1_ivrvjb2 wrote
Ahhh yes Baltimore the city of infinite resources. First of all, how are we going to offer higher salaries than richer cities like Philly or elsewhere in order to attract top talent?
We already couldn’t afford competitive salaries in order to attract top talent, and with term limits now we have made a potential career change to Baltimore public service even less attractive than it already was. Who wants to uproot their whole life in exchange for 2 years for less money or even the same money? The only people coming here from other major cities will be low level title chasers who probably have no intention of sticking around.
Oh and don’t forget that any outsiders moving here for office would also have to live here for 6 months before running for office, and then would only get to stay for 2 years before they have to find a new job.
Absolutely genius lol
Cunninghams_right t1_ivrzk3w wrote
where are yo getting 2 years?
melissanotmellisa t1_ivsbnd9 wrote
My first thought was to compare the violence, not the accents. It’s all relative
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LordMalyce t1_ivr1b50 wrote
York City PA is like a little Baltimore.
ScootyHoofdorp t1_ivtarua wrote
I don't think you're totally wrong, but York definitely has a Central PA feeling about it that neither Baltimore nor Philly have. Even though York is closer to Baltimore than Philly, I think the 95 corridor plays a big role in similarities between cities.
LordMalyce t1_ivtfdya wrote
Oh you were thinking of atmosphere/feeling? I was thinking of like the way it looks with the row homes and all that which I know is just cities in general but still. Even though it’s not form stone and all that up here.
smoovgee t1_ivq8xqq wrote
None. None of those cities have affordable housing. Baltimore still does.
You're not going to find any property in turnkey condition for $125k. But you will in Baltimore.
The vibe, nightlife, etc etc means nothing if you can't afford to live there.
DfcukinLite t1_ivqhjpi wrote
Philly is very affordable as is Richmond.
ThisAmericanSatire t1_ivru44u wrote
Richmond is starting to get expensive.
I looked at moving there a year ago (from NC), and decided against it because I liked Baltimore better, but houses in The Fan are much more expensive than comparable houses in Canton.
Bonethug609 t1_ivqr6lj wrote
This is false. Maybe if you’re talking some dog shit. Neighborhood. Philly is def more expensive. But idk about that 125k Baltimore price either. What neighborhood?!
DfcukinLite t1_ivqsd2x wrote
This is not false. Philly is very affordable. Maybe not in say Rittenhouse or center city, but rents are comparable to here.
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ButterscotchWitty325 t1_ivvu0vx wrote
Not 125k in Philly anywhere you'd want to live, I doubt (though you def can find). But South Philly is pretty affordable and fine. No parking, but i think you can find something in like Newbold or Point Breeze in the 200s. Still not bad given how close those are to center city. I dont know that I would live anywhere in Baltimore where houses go for 125 either, though, and Philly has way better transit/walkability.
No_name_Johnson t1_ivpyu83 wrote
Love how its not even close - Philly is very similar to Baltimore, just bigger.