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Truckerontherun t1_iwxa00w wrote
Human president: What do you mean we used to have a moon?
livebeta t1_iwxt1oo wrote
> What do you mean we used to have a moon?
-- Chrisjen Avasarala
SMAMtastic t1_iwxz26b wrote
What the fuck do you mean we used to have a god damned moon?!?!
— Chrisjen Avasarala
FTFY
cheeseitmeatbags t1_iwy409l wrote
Nobody could curse quite like Avasarala
Mastrovator t1_iwy7dly wrote
“Don’t stick your dick in it Holden, it’s fucked enough already.”
jorrylee t1_iwzdgug wrote
What’s Holden’s middle name?
MaxamillionGrey t1_ix01oou wrote
I don't know. Old Indian guys swearing at each other could be the pinnacle.
"I WILL FUCK YOU, BUDDY! BEHENCHOD!"
I love it.
livebeta t1_iwzh1qr wrote
Samuel L Jackson: surprised Pikachu face
livebeta t1_iwycqct wrote
brilliant
I heard that in her deep raspy voice
fedgut t1_iwxwfk4 wrote
Brilliant
Kairamek t1_iwxy2t6 wrote
The tide goes out, the tide comes in. You can no longer explain that.
DirtyHazza t1_iwy0xo0 wrote
Unless you have the exact mass of the moon, concentrated in a black hole orbiting in the same location. Then it continues as normal even though you can't see the black hole's gravitational lensing from earth's surface with the naked eye
Masterfactor t1_iwylw9a wrote
A black hole moon could be a useful telescope
SMS-T1 t1_iwymalt wrote
Would also be an excellent name for a indie metal bands debut album.
cybervseas t1_iwyq1ua wrote
Black hole moon
Gone too soon
To push away the tides
Black home mo~on
Gone too soon
Gone too so~on
WesternEmpire2510 t1_iwz2uun wrote
Oh, Chris 😔😔😔....
Raz0rking t1_iwykiiw wrote
Davids face after that one was priceless. Even more so when you understand the context of it.
The Bill one sees there is a character switched on, wich took David completely by surprise.
idiomaddict t1_iwyn8p2 wrote
What’s this from?
Raz0rking t1_iwynktx wrote
idiomaddict t1_iwynp8y wrote
Ty!
Dirty-Soul t1_iwyjmf1 wrote
Well, we had a moon... sips coffee ... It fell in the hole.
-President Tomska
DinosaurianStarling t1_iwznogq wrote
"I would build a great black hole, and nobody builds holes better than me, and I'll build it very inexpensively. I'll build a great great hole along the orbit of the moon and I'll have the moon colony pay for it." - Donald Trump the Fourth of the American Monarchy
glasswings t1_iwzhslb wrote
Technically we still do, it's that funny dimple in the star field.
Ketheres t1_iwx9rcl wrote
Fund that research! I want to see a star turned into a torus, for science ^(and giggles)!
LeftDave t1_iwxp5pu wrote
>Fund that research! I want to see a star turned into a torus, for science and giggles
We're crazy. We know how to create a black hole bomb that (if prevented from detonating) would produce power until the heat death of the universe. It's material limitations stopping us, not the underlying science. We also figured out how to turn the entire Sol System into a starship (bonus points for adding a few tens of billion years to Sol's lifespan) just so a YouTube channel could justify a video.
Ranakastrasz t1_iwxsaaq wrote
As much as I want to say it wasn't for the purposes of a YouTube channel, it is far more amusing that way.
Cooldude101013 t1_iwxuowj wrote
Psalmbodyoncetoldme t1_ix3o2mi wrote
How did I know it was Kurzgesagt?
Captain_Vanilla t1_iwxwrkn wrote
which isaac arthur video are we talking about
LeftDave t1_iwyk8gf wrote
Nope, In a Nutshell.
Zyukar t1_iwxuku2 wrote
And that YouTube channel is inspiring a whole generation of people to be crazy
JonArc t1_iwxxcb4 wrote
Careful, they might end up in a parallel universe where the parallel version of their species ascribes so an even more destructive philosophy.
TuzkiPlus t1_iwxqtfo wrote
"singular or plural?"
MYule90 t1_iwxqdnk wrote
"They're incredibly irresponsible" is my new favorite description for humanity, thank you
A-purple-bird t1_iwx7sgf wrote
Stop them immediatly!
I love these short stories man..
SnooTomatoes2397 t1_iwxr5ue wrote
Small nit pick, the radiation made from a mini black hole from the moon would kill everyone on earth.
SirPiecemaker t1_iwxw2ul wrote
Uuuh... uh... science... stuff? We did science stuff to stop that, yeah.
thephantom1492 t1_iwyg6k9 wrote
Well, we would have solved that with a shield of some sort, because having a black hole instead is more interessing!
We could even get rid of all of our trash! Just send it in the black hole and gone!
SnooTomatoes2397 t1_iwzenbn wrote
Well the black hole would also instantly disappear so there's that
Impossibu t1_iwxwbix wrote
Earth must be screwed if we have no moon.
PM_ME_YOUR_NAUGHTIEZ t1_iwy0z6c wrote
The moon is gone, but matter cannot be created or destroyed, so the mass is still there.. probably on a similar trajectory and orbit.
RuneRW t1_iwye0xi wrote
Yep, a black hole the mass of the moon in the same orbit wouldn't change anything. Although a black hole eclipse sounds fun, I imagine it wouldn't be large enough to be visible from earth with the naked eye.
Raderg32 t1_iwyignj wrote
Would the lensing effect concentrate the solar rays to make a laser like a magnifying glass to an anthill?
PM_ME_UR_PET_POTATO t1_iwyk7kx wrote
It's still only the mass of the moon at the end of the day, so probably not? I don't think density matters here.
Raderg32 t1_iwykp3m wrote
It does, since it would be so much smaller it would change the position of the focal point to be much closer.
A black hole with the mass of the moon would be 0.1mm. All that gravity in such a small area would make it strong enough to bend light, but being that small I don't think it would be very noticeable.
NeVMiku t1_iwypl5d wrote
You'll have to get the focal point just right as well. There's nothing saying (yet) that it will be the perfect distance.
Seiren- t1_ix2eyik wrote
The moon doesnt, so I don’t think so?
criminally_inane t1_iwzthf9 wrote
Psalmbodyoncetoldme t1_ix3orqr wrote
It would barely be large enough to be seen in your hand with the naked eye (before your hand and body brutally contorts and gets sucked into it.)
almost_practical t1_iwz95oe wrote
"They're incredibly irresponsible" made me audibly laugh 👍
I enjoyed it, good story
Rick-476 t1_iwzh8he wrote
This makes humanity the kobolds of the galaxy.
SirPiecemaker t1_iwzux0v wrote
I was thinking gnomes, honestly. They're stereotypically irresponsible. Lots of stuff blowing up.
TekoloKuautli t1_iwzn3xi wrote
This describes humans very nicely
rmorrin t1_iwxrjk0 wrote
This gave me a good chuckle
UnrealPH t1_iwyf6zs wrote
Funny and terrifying.
Danielwols t1_iwz0h6b wrote
Suggestion: funded under supervision
Heldomir t1_iwy68ax wrote
Hehe, i like it :3
Zirnike t1_iwyfedp wrote
The human stared at the navigation database. Thiun recognized the look as one of puzzlement. It was distressingly common in humans, considering they made it to a different star system.
"Don't you have a numerical catalog with spacial coordinates? I can translate your zero point to ours easily enough, but this list of names isn't helping." She brushed back her hair from her eyes.
Thiun started to weave his two primary manipulator tentacles together in an expression of humor, then stopped himself. One of the few things humans were at an average level on was learning what they called "body language", and he did not wish to seem insulting.
"That is our numerical database. They are listed in order of proximity, but perhaps this might assist in comprehension." He reached out to the secondary console and filtered by order of discovery, with the coordinates listed after.
Hedy looked again. This time her expression was new to it. Thiun checked his external link, and found a single raised eyebrow meant the discovery of something odd. It allowed it's secondary manipulator tentacle to express a questioning demeanor.
"Ok, let me just confirm something. I know you're a scientist, so you're good at math?" Thiun nodded, that being a surprisingly common species indicator of agreement. "Would you mind multiplying 643 by 896? Manually, I mean."
It's own manipulators "raising their eyebrows", Thiun pulled out his tablet and started writing. A few minutes later, it exclaimed "576123."
"You're off by five." Hedy cocked her head. "Try me."
"Very well. 355 times 763."
"270865." Came back seconds later. She had done it without a writing surface. In her head. It typed in the numbers into his calculator. It took him longer to confirm the answer than it had for her to give it.
All 15 eyes swiveled to focus on the human. "How? No offense, but your capabilities are quite limited compared to ours, but I've only seen that kind of mental mathematics done as a parlor trick, by someone with perfect recall."
She shook her head. "I can't believe you made it out of the sail age like this..." She muttered distractedly. "correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the number 74, correct?" Thiun's glance showed that number hadn't shown up on screen. She wrote out a quick series of symbols, with the furthest along being a "?". "I don't know what that symbol looks like, but I know there is one."
Three eyes looked at the tablet, quickly followed by 8 others. The remaining stared at the human scientist as a threat response - his biology literally would not let him look away.
"I don't understand... You said this was the first time you've seen our databases, but you figured it out that quickly?"
She stared back. "I finally have something to trade, it seems. A positional numerical system." Again she brushed her hair out of her eyes. "How did you manage spaceflight with base 8 ROMAN NUMERALS?"
UnusualDisturbance t1_iwykmn7 wrote
programmer here. base 8 roman numerals sent cold shivers down my spine.
Zirnike t1_iwyzd2f wrote
I'm an engineer. It was painful to even think about.
How integrals? Shudder
Graveyard_01 t1_ix5u8us wrote
Astrophysics major here. How the frick do they even work with lightyears. Like… geez, imagine writing the gravitational constant in Roman numerals
Zirnike t1_ix5ukeh wrote
"is that 'e,' for order of magnitude or is it a number?"
Graveyard_01 t1_ix5x70g wrote
depends on which e u mean, there is a e for natural log (which might be the e u mean), an e for eccentricity of an orbit, and an e used by computers for scientific notation; 10e+2 means 1000 (and which also might be what u mean).
Edit: 1e-3 means 0.001 Edit again: self note, don’t use - as line breaks
Zirnike t1_ix5xvf9 wrote
Natural log related e generally has a superscript, but I take your point.
Oh, goddess, now I'm trying to figure out irrational and imaginary numbers in Roman numerals.
MAKE IT STOP!!!
Graveyard_01 t1_ixfawrg wrote
Additions of numbers bigger than 50 are already horror enough
DrBlowtorch t1_iy5s6hq wrote
Highschool Student in AP Calc here. How the hell did they manage anything at all with a numerical system designed by Satan himself.
R3D3-1 t1_ixycrld wrote
I am less concerned with integrals and more with how they managed to implement any form of digital computation system without figuring out a proper numbering system XD
MEOW_MAM t1_iwywgfu wrote
Base 8???
Nah fuck them no more peace for those dipshit
SomeoneRandom5325 t1_iwzc4qp wrote
programmers rejoicing at the 2^n base
roman numerals
angry programmers
mack0409 t1_iwzvody wrote
Base8 is probably about as usable as base10, but base12 is way better than either.
MEOW_MAM t1_iwzzlf2 wrote
I've had one of my buddies praise the shit out of base12 non stop for the last motherfucking months and it's driving me insane. I do not see why it's supposedly so good.
I mean, base10 increases in digits each 10^n times, it makes sense and is continues. Meanwhile base12? It's like base10 but I also have to not forget the extra 2. It's just more confusing.
I'm serious, do tell me why folks think base12 is so good because it's making me lose my mind.
RoyalGarbage t1_ix01uwn wrote
Base 12 is considered more useful because it has more factors: It’s divisible by 2, 3, 4 and 6 instead of just by 2 and 5. That doesn’t make it any easier for somebody who’s used base 10 their whole life, though.
Duck_Giblets t1_ixkjtdt wrote
Needs division by zero to be of any reasonable and realistic use.
Ancient_Condition96 t1_iyb2ahk wrote
Everyone else when they encounter fractions: Lets solve them to a decimal form so that we can actually use the number.
Americans: lets leave it at that, you don't need to learn more math do you? No just leave it as it is, no need to complicate it more...
​
Yeah I'm annoyed with the american's use of fractions, worse they use them right along side imperial measurement units... ugh every time I see something like "15/18 inches" I feel the need to scream.
mack0409 t1_ix0m4bp wrote
There's not a modern society that can handle switching their counting system from one base to another, and a person that tries is basically just trying to learn to count all over again, except they already know how to count "wrong." Base2, base12, and base60 all have a few things in common, they're all highly composite numbers and are used in wide scale applications. Base12 is "better" than base10 pretty much only based on 12 being highly composite. Though if you look at the English language "twelve" doesn't exactly say "2+10" the way thirteen says "3+10"
Another thing to consider, when counting in Base(n), "n" is always rendered as "10" If something is actually in base12 then ten would usually be rendered as "A" or "a" and eleven would be rendered as "B" or "b"
Base12 isn't going to be better to use in pretty much any modern person's life, but if a hypothetical new society emerged independent from our, base6 or base12 would almost certainly be more useful than base10.
Though using base6 can be pretty easy for most people; you can think of one hand as the "ones" place (is usually use my right hand) and the other hand as the "sixes" place. count on your fingers as normal until the "ones hand" is full, when you reach five. Then you add one by closing the "ones hand" and opening one finger on the "sixes hand". If you repeat this (and have all your fingers) you should be able to count to thirty-five on just your hands! Doing this might also help you notice that thirty-five renders as "55" when written in base6.
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SomeoneRandom5325 t1_iwzbyi1 wrote
How is it even possible to be off by 5 when you can just check the last digit and immediately know that it's wrong
plus base 8 roman numerals would probably look something like this:
A, AA, AB, B, BA, BAA, AC, C
where A=1, B=4 and C=8 with the rules of roman numerals that you know and love preserved
Zirnike t1_iwzclqt wrote
Multiplying roman numerals is insane, it'd be easy to lose something: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1530406/how-to-multiply-roman-numerals#:~:text=Take%20the%20first%20number%20you,%2B%20V%20%2B%20V%2C%20etc.
RoyalGarbage t1_ix024h2 wrote
Now imagine that B still equals 5 and there is no C.
SomeoneRandom5325 t1_ix1rd1a wrote
This system looks so illogical for base 8 it's probably not base 8 at all
If it is I legitimately wonder how they even got to space
couldathrowaway t1_iwzio7a wrote
This one should be atop the page when sorting by controversial. You have officially submitted a valid reason for which to start a war with aliens or otherwise ruin diplomatic relationships towards. I'll tale binary any day. But hey, good story
ShadowPouncer t1_iwz700c wrote
Good god, that's horrific.
y6ird t1_iwyjny5 wrote
This one is my favourite :)
Spare_Confidence1727 t1_ix19gjw wrote
Coder here and I am still wondering how their ships held together let alone fly with their mathematics being base 8 never mind the military part of my brain has spoken kill them all
Zirnike t1_ix1le1c wrote
I think base 8 isn't much of an issue. Might actually be an advantage if we "spoke" b8, considering the structuring of our computers.
The real question is, what the bloody hell does the system architecture of a computer running on roman numerals look like? 😀 Good thing the aliens are smart.
Speciesunkn0wn t1_ixbk3v8 wrote
...What the genuine fuck. Go post this to r/HFY and break more brains. I want to see more of this and the interactions as they transition.
AnimeFanLee t1_iwwd8o2 wrote
Date XXXX of the Interstellar Calendar
This new species is absolutely fascinating! They are a still young species, barely out of the 'infant' stage of their evolution I would guess, but never before have I seen such an inquisitive species throughout the Universe. They are immature and undeveloped technologically, but their curiosity drives them and perhaps their relative youth explains their seeming lack of fear. They developed vessels for space travel far earlier in their evolution than any other species so far, a feat likely to never again be repeated. Curious as to how they pulled this off, a select few of us were sent to their planet to learn what we could and see how best we could help this fledgling species develop. What we found was a complete divergence from how all other life in the Universe developed. They are uncouth, violent, immature, and their technology is as basic as it could possibly get, but they have somehow developed their mathematical knowledge so rapidly that for centuries before they developed space travel they were already able to predict the motions of the celestial bodies they could observe with a margin of error so negligible as to be non-existent. They can predict the future, simply through mathematical equations. Their mathematically driven feats of engineering have allowed them to ascend to the heavens within a fraction of the time it took any other species, even those that had help from already spacefaring species - and they figured this all out on their own. It is truly astounding, and far beyond anything that any other sentient race has reached. What this strange, young species has managed to develop through mathematics will completely overhaul everything we thought we knew about the Universe. It is fortunate that their technology is still so primitive, as if they had the tech to support their mathematics then they could rapidly expand and take over the Universe with minimal resistance.
A-purple-bird t1_iwx7z6u wrote
Oo, i like this!
_DirtyDog t1_iwygten wrote
Nice. I like that it's our curiosity that wins the day.
I noticed a mix of formalisms and informalisms. For example, no use of contractions is quite formal. But then "figured out" and "tech" are quite informal.
But ye, fun read.
couldathrowaway t1_iwy1dp3 wrote
"What do you mean they have threat level one potential but zero advanced sorcery. Is this some sort of advanced magic weilding technique we do not know about?" Yelled the director of the Intergalactic Relations Bureau.
"No, sir. It's just that they-" the linguistic and cultural research head was interupted once more bybthe director. "This is a new species we have come across in the barren and uninhabitable parts of the universe. There is no way they have prepared for war with anyone. They would have grown thinking they are alone with no one to fight but themselves. We know how that goes."
"Yes sir, we only find their ruins. But these "Humans" have grown differently. They... well, they're perhaps less intelligent than a child like to ever discover any type of sorcery, but they have lived in the most uninhabitable area knowing they're alone." The subordinate grabbed a large stack of papers he'd accumulated on human research. "Their bodies have the ability to heal themselves from nearly any type of damage. Even when amputated, their bodies will simply heal where the limb was lost."
The director paid concerned attention. A war with humans could not be won by targetting the healers first if they could heal any damage administered. "Is this what makes them so seemingly threatening? Because it would be a fight against an enemy that does not die?"
"No, no. They do die, and rather quickly. Their livespans are no more than a quarter of the standard lifespan, but they can all have multiple offspring and they have something equal or more powerful to magic and sorcery. This, I am struggling to understand how it works." Said the linguistics and Cultural professional with carefulness in his words. "They have advanced mathematics too far."
"Mathematics? Is this some sort of joke? Is today international humour day?"
"No sir. They can control metal with no biological components nor posessions. They have colonized the nearest moon and planet to their home planet and have a planetary defense system with no form of sorcery."
"How can mathematics show this. How could adding one to one, taking one away or splitting items be used to leave their planets? You simply hire a sorcerer pilot and comamdeer a biometal ship to move where you please."
"Of course sir, but they becan calculating how far they could throw a deadly item during war. Sharp objects usually, but since they fought such formidable opponents, themselves. They escalated their weaponry. They mined their planets compressed fires and eventually made rocks think in mathematics with lightning power."
"So why have you brought me here?"
"To explain that they are the new super power but have long chosen a path of peace."
"This cannot be. Our most fierce mages can kill one hundred enemies in one day. A short lifespan would make the Humans tire quickly. Would it not?" Asked the director with more worry as his expert did not seem to be joking.
"Yes, the best can kil up to two hundred in a day, but behold. They are trying to make a route to their mearest galaxy, but those planets are in their way for a perfect launch."
"Well yes. No one can throw a weapon around a planet without sorcery."
The director and the linguistics and culture professional watched in silence as a small one person ship approached them completely unaware of their cloaked presence.
"What is this human doing out here? Did he get thrown wrong and off course."
"No sir, he is clearing a path for the neighbor galaxy."
They watched in disbelief as the single person ship fired one small rocket at each of the three planets in question.
"This could not poss-" the director's mouth fell agape as he witnessed his first three planet sized nuclear explosions. "No! The planets. How can... we cannot possibly compete with these." He looked at his advisor, then at the sorcerer in control of the ship. "Make it imperative that we remain cloaked. The human could eradicate us if he saw us as threatening." "Aye"
"You are sure they are not a voilent race?"
"Not in generations. Sir." Replied the culture and linguistics advisor.
The small human ship then fired three more small projectiles that turned into black spheres at each of the planets. The Intergalactic Relations Bureau saw for the first time in their lives three black holes grow from nothing, swallow the debree from the planets and collapse onto themselves, leaving nothing but perfect spheres of all the planet's resources sorted and lined up in a row.
"That's one human's power? How many of them are there?" Asked the director in a panic, knowing that these powers derived from mathematics could most likely not be stopped with any sort of magic.
"Twenty five billion."
"Remove our cloaking."
"But sir w-"
"We cannot afford a negative introduction. The council would want to send a battalion along as a precaution. The humans could see it as an act of violence and shortly after: they could become the only life forms in the universe. No matter how much smarter we may be. They hold the power of the universe. We were unlucky to develop in comfort and never needed to explore the power beyond magic. Let's hope they are welcoming of strangers."
Apologies for any misspellings. On mobile that refuses to auto correct or auto suggest the right spelling. Probably paragraphis are wrong too.
Mabi19_ OP t1_iwyhzbf wrote
Magic is not what I expected, but this is great.
Lasias t1_iwydemq wrote
This is great, good job.
_DirtyDog t1_iwyhmnw wrote
Loved it
outflies t1_iwyf0fm wrote
oh please continue
Gamer_0710 t1_ix00s19 wrote
Moar
crazykid080 t1_iwy14es wrote
BEGINNING ENTRY FOR IGC SPECIES 5023. TRANSLATION FOR: HUMAN-ENGLISH
IDENTIFICATION: Human
RISK FACTOR: PALTIC
VOTE OF INCLUSION:
S10-1: AYE
S10-2: NAY
S10-3: AYE
S10-4: AYE
S10-5: AYE
TOTAL VOTE: 4-1 RESULT: FIRST CONTACT AND INCLUSION APPROVED
PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: Humans are two legged, ground based creatures with two arms that walk upright. Not capable of flight without augmentation or external machines. Liquid traversal limited as well. Most possess capability to traverse H2O bodies for short periods and can float. Underwater capability limited to approximately 6e10 standard pulses. Capability varies based on individual. Sight limited to approximately 380-740 standard waves. Capable of standard hearing and touch. Evidence of taste and smell found. Unknown capability. [INFORMATION EXCLUDED. ACCESS RESTRICTED TO S8 AND HIGHER]
REASON FOR INCLUSION: IGC-5023 has been monitored for ██00 of their solar cycles. Recent activity in the past 400 cycles has shown near impossible progression of mathematics and science. As of ███████ galactic time, 3█ solar cycles ago, IGC-5023 has acheived ███ capability and is now traveling outside of their solar system. As this technology is of interest to the psionic council as well as [INFORMATION EXCLUDED]
ADDENDUM 5023-1
THREAT CLASS UPGRADED TO ARMINION. THEY DO NOT COME IN PEACE. ANY CONTACT MUST BE REPORTED TO S9 COMMAND AND WILL REQUIRE IMMEDIATE DEPLOYMENT OF █████████ CLASS VESSELS
Fluxxdog t1_iwy409i wrote
Yeah, definite SCP vibes here.
"Were we the anomalies all along?"
crazykid080 t1_iwy441a wrote
Yeah I've been on an SCP binge recently and I figured I'd parody it and have some fun. Wanted to try and make it into a small species documentation
ScarlettPotato t1_iwyecny wrote
My dumbass kept on tapping at the covered parts thinking it was behind a spoiler tag.
propixelchicken t1_iwylgoj wrote
As an scp fan I always like seeing shit like this but I feel like you fell into the "To Many Black Bars" problem here. Non of the sentences give any information all the crutial parts are censored. At the end it sadly felt like I read nothing. I like the twist at the end tho. "THEY DO NO COME IN PEACE" LOL
crazykid080 t1_iwzdpx2 wrote
Yeah, if I spent more than 5 minutes in the back of a truck coming up with this I would have tried to add more instead of relying on the secrecy. I don't think I'll revisit it just because it's already posted, but hey, I'm happy with it. Plus who knows what the other 5000+ races are lol
SNUFFGURLL t1_iwytbkk wrote
Brought infront of various alien species, of shapes and sizes I would’ve thought impossible, the one who brought me there- green in colour, and almost resembling of old paleo art, nudged me with it’s nose, toward beings that towered over me.
“An average specimen for your viewing. Juvenile, and with a few mental defects. Watch what it can do!”
Okay, that was offensive, and I would’ve much preferred not to have been given a translator, because that just felt mean. I was handed a pen and paper, with foreign eyes looking at me intently. It was a few high-school level equations. Algebra, too, which was my favourite kind of math, since it made sense to my visual learning kind of brain.
Thinking hard for a moment, and then repeating the processes I had been taught, I wrote down the answers to the questions, in very scratchy handwriting. Finishing relatively quickly once I got into a rhythm, I presented my basic algebra to these creatures that were advanced beyond my comprehension. I must’ve looked a bit nervous, because that green, dinosaur-like alien, gently nudged me with its nose again, as if to try to give me some support.
The galactic community infront of me looked positively stunned. And sure, I wasn’t the brightest at maths, but this was just basic algebra that would be taught to 15 year olds. Was it really so complex for them? Or perhaps it was because the average human intelligence wouldn’t compensate for such knowledge? Whatever it was, they seemed impressed.
“What a marvellous creature. And they’re all like this?” An amorphous blob questioned, hollow voice echoing through the spaceship halls. I was lifted up by a few littler blobs, who I assumed were helpers of the big one, but I wasn’t really sure. Well, it wasn’t relevant. I was pretty pleased, because I was getting attention I never would’ve gotten back on Earth.
Cooing and touching my hair, I felt wanted, whereas back home, I was merely berated for my poor test scores and my odd way of thinking.
“The rest of them are kind of mean.” I commented, and they all stared at me adoringly, not stunned by my use of language, aided by the translator, but seemingly by my voice. They spoke to me like normal humans, as if in normal conversation, but I could tell this, to them, was baby-speak, because they talked amongst themselves as if I wasn’t there, too, and their languages were too complex for the measly translator I had been loaned. Well, that was okay. This was nice, and I could get used to this kind of treatment.
(It’s not very good. Sorry about that. I just think that advanced aliens being so enamoured by humanity would be funny.)
RocketteLawnchair t1_iwz8g9t wrote
Dale wasn't sure anymore how long they'd been holding him there, either hours or days. It felt like an interrogation but the questions made no sense. They were just grilling him about math problems, He knew there had to be a higher level to the line of questioning but he couldn't get past the silliness of their inquiries.
A new interrogator had just entered the room and seated himself across from Dale. He did not look happy with Dale. He looked like he wanted to kill him.
"How do we know you're not making it up," the angry man demanded. His jacket was weighed down with medals that just looked like small plastic buttons. They clicked and clacked together as he shook with anger. "What assurances can you give us that what you say is true? Do you expect us to follow you on faith alone?"
"I could show my work," Dale replied. "If I had something to count with. Like the buttons on your shirt. Do you mind?"
"These tokens represent the Dorgian squads I defeated on Dorga 7," the man was shouting and began to rise out of his seat. "And to take them off so you can play some silly math game-"
The angry man's bracelets gave a short electrical buzz that seemed to grab his attention. He looked over at the mirror wall and seated himself again.
"I just said something like the buttons. Something I can use to demonstrate."
The angry man looked over at the mirror again and raised his eyebrows.
On the other side of the glass, a group of researchers and engineers all turned their attention to a sharply dressed woman. She had only one button pinned to her jacket but it was a big one.
"Bring him a box of tokens from my office," she said to no one person in particular.
"At once, ma'am," two people in lab coats stammered simultaneously.
"Be quick about it," she added. "Commander Glabnok is growing impatient. He behaves erratically when he's like this."
She reached forward and gave a single knock on the glass with her knuckle.
Back in the interrogation room, Commander Glabnok smiled and nodded at the mirror. He leaned back in his seat and crossed his arms.
"While we wait, let's ask some more questions. Sally has five apples. She gives two of them to Tony. How many apples does she have?"
"Three."
"How can you be so sure? Also, she could be lying. But you're answering too quickly. You must have already been asked that one."
"It's possible," Dale shrugged. "They kinda all sound the same."
"Then let's try one you don't already know the answer to," Commander Glabnok sat upright in his chair and folded his hands together on the table. "Sally has two apples. She gives Tina three apples. How ma-"
"She can't."
"What did you just say?"
"Sally can't give her three apples."
"She has to! Sally gives Tina three apples! How many-"
"She can't. She doesn't have th-"
"Tina demands it!" Commander Glabnok's chair fell back as he shot up from the table. "If Sally doesn't give Tina three apples I will-"
The door to the room opened and a small man wearing a lab coat came in carrying a box. It clicked and clacked like the Commander's jacket as the man in the lab coat set it down in front of Dale. The Commander's eyes widened at the sight of the box. Thousands of tokens piled haphazardly in a cardboard box made the number on his shirt seem tiny.
"For showing your work," the man in the lab coat gestured to Dale before scurrying from the room.
"Let's start with the first problem you gave me," Dale reached into the box of plastic buttons and pulled five of them. He placed them on the table individually. Click, click, click, click, click. He looked up at the Commander who seemed to be running his own calculation in his head, possibly about how much fighting would have to take place to earn these plastic tokens. "Shall we proceed?"
"Yes, go on," the Commander righted his chair and sat down across from Dale.
"Sally has five apples."
Dale waits for Glabnok to acknowledge.
"Yes, that's been established."
"She gives Tony two apples." He slides two buttons forward.
"Mm-hmm."
"So, she has three left," Dale taps each on the plastic buttons with his index finger. "One, two, three."
"No the other problem," Glabnok demands. "The you couldn't seem to get right."
"Well, it wasn't that I couldn't get it right. It's just that it's not p-"
"Show your work, Dale of Earth," Glabnok insists. "Isn't that what the sniveling little lab rat told you to do. Show your work."
"Alright," Dale slides three of the buttons behind the cardboard box and places the other two between them on the table. Click, click. "Sally has two buttons."
"Tokens."
"Well, actually they were supposed to be apples. So, Sally has two apples."
"Right, apples."
"And Tina wants three apples."
"Tina demands three!"
"But Sally doesn't have that many-"
"She's lying!"
"No she only has two. So, she can't give-"
"Sally is lying about the tokens! Just give Tina the damn tokens! She's earned them," Commander Glabnok shoves his hands into the cardboard box and pulls out two fistfuls of plastic tokens. "There's so much. And she's been hoarding it. Keeping it from the others. From everyone. What else has she lied about? What other secrets has she- ahhh-"
The bracelets on Commander Glabnok's wrists lit up and began to hum loudly. His palms opened upward as he froze in pain. Hundreds of plastic buttons scattered across the floor.
The door opened and a sharply dressed woman quickly closed the gap between the door and the frozen Commander. In one swift motion she produced a small stick from her pocket and pointed it at the Commander's chest. A beam of light shot into his chest and he collapsed on the floor with his eyes frozen open staring at the ceiling.
"Get in here and clean this mess up," she shouted. Two people in lab coats scurried into the room. "Tokens back in the box. Put him down the chute."
The two lab coats began dragging the stiff Commander over to a door along the far wall that looked just the right size and height for loading bodies into.
"And the tokens from his jacket," the sharply-dressed woman added. The two lab coats turned and looked at one another in disbelief. They didn't remove his plastic buttons right away. "You may each take one token."
They nodded, removed a button each from the Commander's chest and pinned it two their own. The sharply dressed woman introduced herself while the lab coats continued cleaning up.
"Hello, Dale of Earth," the sharply-dressed woman smiled. "I am the Director. I want to thank you, Dale. I think you'll be able to solve our little problem. Walk with me and I'll explain."
The Director led Dale through a series of corridors with doors, many of which had a screen next to them that read: Authorization Required. She explained that their ship had been hit with a solar upon entering the current solar system which caused a lot of the ships systems to reboot.
"And the old leaders of the ship, the Brainiacs I mentioned earlier, they made everything all secure and password protected," The Director explained. "But the wanted to make sure that it was a password the rest of us couldn't figure out. So, they used their special math language as a way to authorize certain systems."
They had arrived at a large door at the end of a hallway and she gestured to the panel next to it.
"I need your help accessing this room."
The screen was filled with complex math problems that Dale couldn't figure out. Calculus, maybe, but he wasn't sure.
"This is too difficult for me," Dale shrugged. "Sorry but I don't even understand it."
"Eh-hmm," the Director cleared her throat. "Did you catch that? Exam assistance requested."
A disembodied voice filled the hallway: EXAM ASSISTANCE ACTIVATED
The panel flickered and showed a picture of five apples.
SALLY HAS FIVE APPLES. SHE GIVE TWO APPLES TO TONY. HOW MANY APPLES DOES SHE HAVE?
"Three."
PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK
Dale held up his hand with five fingers extended. He thing curled his thumb and pinky into his palm.
CORRECT. AUTHORIZATION CONFIRMED.
The door hissed as the large metal panels began to slide into the wall. Dale counted fourteen people rushing to the door as they entered.
"Oh, thank you," one cried out. "We're so hungry we thought we would die in here."
"The cafeteria is active for another hour," the Director said flatly. "Go eat."
"How'd you get the door open?" another person asked. "Must have taken some sort of Brainiac." He had his hand on a small stick identical to the one the Director used to kill Glabnok.
"This is Dale of Earth. He's helping us."
"Must be some sort of Brainiac-"
"Go eat."
They left Dale and the Director alone in what looked like a command center. Out the large window ahead of them was the pale blue dot Dale grew up on. And in the center of the room was what appeared to be a giant rifle pointed at the blue dot.
"I need you to unlock this," the Director gestured to the big gun.
Dale wandered forward staring at the blue dot.
"It's beautiful. I mean, pictures don't grasp the scale-"
"Dale, focus."
"You're going to destroy it."
"Have you ever seen a photon torpedo hit a rock that size? The spectacle is far greater and what some colored rock may look like."
"The human race is on that rock-"
"They're Brainiacs, Dale. They're bad and dangerous people. They have to go. Authorize the photon torpedo."
Dale scanned the room hoping to find another control panel as he approached the big gun. There, on a desk behind him was what he needed.
"Two minus one equals one," Dale shouted.
PLEASE SHOW YOUR WORK
"That's not what it's asking," the Director said. "Is it? It looks like four or five apples to me. One, two, three, four. Yeah, four. What are you doing?"
Dale held up two fingers in front of the Directors face.
"Two minus one."
He curled in his index finger.
"Fuck you."
CORRECT. SELF-DESTRUCT INITIATED
"Damn, Brainiac! Should have just killed you from the start."
IHadToDownVoteIt27 t1_iwzhkll wrote
This one is my favourite, Dale is a bad ass.
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Nav-Arc t1_iwwzqhz wrote
I've thought about a trait humans may have that would be superior to an advanced extraterrestrial civilization. Our mathematical logic has been something that crossed my mind. But I always think about how could an advanced civilization occur without some sort of strong math
ArchTemperedKoala t1_iwx99wl wrote
Yeah especially civs worthy of interplanetary travel.. Those shit need lots of maths..
Mabi19_ OP t1_iwygy8b wrote
The system of mathematics that we have is a deeply interconnected web, where theorems from very different fields come together in weird ways. For example, you can solve the stolen necklace problem (fairly cutting up a necklace with different types of gems) with the Borsuk-Ulam theorem (topology) by using a hypersphere.
I was thinking mostly of this type of highly abstract maths; we're doing maths to have more maths, while the aliens are doing the maths that they need. As a result, we have a greater understanding of the underlying concepts (see: group theory and the monster), which is rarely useful (for example, we could invent a faster algorithm for doing something, such as the Fast Fourier Transform).
In short, the aliens would still have complex numbers (see Schrodinger equation, for example), advanced calculus and the like. But, of course, one of the best things about r/WritingPrompts is that the prompts can be interpreted in very different ways.
[deleted] t1_iwyubk7 wrote
I don't understand a single word you just said so I'm gonna take your word for that lol
Mabi19_ OP t1_iww8z9j wrote
I think this is a difficult topic to handle, but I've had this idea for a while now and there's no harm in posting it.
SirPiecemaker t1_iwwxnnt wrote
I got you. I've thought of just the thing.
S1eepyZ t1_iwwy5vl wrote
You always make good stories, could you tell me when it’s done?
SirPiecemaker t1_iwx0h0z wrote
Already done, my friend. I'm honoured that you remember me specifically.
S1eepyZ t1_iwxa13z wrote
It’s partially because your goose profile pic looks like a 2 footed goblin thing with an open mouth when you don’t pay close attention when scrolling mobile, but I do remember your stories are always good.
Whyzocker t1_iwxwdkr wrote
I always dislike when prompts are written in a way that doesnt really make sense.
All of our space fairing and other advancements are based on the cutting edge of technology that can only really exist with out current mathematics. Sure there are some fringe mathematical concepts that dont have real life applications yet, but if there's another space fairing civilization out there, they sure as hell know at least as much maths as us.
Zeroth-unit t1_iwxxp04 wrote
I feel like the way to approach this prompt isn't really with tackling being a spacefaring race but all the other things we've done with mathematics.
Cryptography and encryption, data and signal processing, computer science, silicon-based AI and neural nets, all of that also requires math and it's conceivable that other species wouldn't go down the information technology route since it's possible that they never develop the need to. A good example of an alternate reality where our level of math didn't materialize is the Fallout universe where they practically never went past vacuum tube technology for things so information technology isn't as advanced as our microchip-laden world today. Sure they have advanced tech in other ways but it's not ubiquitous to the point of mundanity like us.
A prompt could then tackle for example a race that only needed the math to do orbital mechanics but only ever used light signals and other forms of simple visual communication that aren't very information dense vs us who can beam down images and video from probes all the way from Pluto.
the_very_next_day t1_iwymvtc wrote
you kinda need those things for exploring space too though...
but i like your idea, it explores the dichotomy of the information revolution we got, vs the space revolution we thought we would get
a similar theme is explored by asimov where by inventing time travel humanity turned inward on itself instead of outward to space.
GameMusic t1_iwxptor wrote
Finally a space writing prompt in which human society is not just space orcs or the diplomats
the_very_next_day t1_iwymq4a wrote
still uniquely talented though
DS_Spirit03 t1_iwxml79 wrote
Those octonions and surreal numbers will finally have practical applications in wowing aliens.
ShutUpYoureWrong_ t1_iwy6hx3 wrote
This prompt doesn't make much sense. Intelligence is widely understood to be correlated directly with mathematics. No mathematics, no intelligence.
"But the online IQ test I took..."
No. Legit IQ tests are essentially all math (with just enough language to comprehend what math questions they're asking).
ixiox t1_iwyow3b wrote
Well this isn't mathematical ability, its mathematics knowledge, a more intelligent alien could just guess a lot of stuff better than humans, not needing complex equations or theorems, or they could be quicker at simpler maths,
Ranakastrasz t1_iwxse09 wrote
I kinda expected this to specifically give them massive hacking capabilities, given usage of advanced math to break each successive generation of codes.
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SirPiecemaker t1_iwx07n5 wrote
"Report," the violet-tinted cloud commanded through a series of flashes of varying intensity.
"They call themselves 'humans', sir," the crystalline creature in front of them replied with a voice that was rough and coarse, yet oddly soothing. "I believe you'll find some of their attributes... peculiar."
"Is that so? Do go on."
"Some basics - physical prowess is an alephar grade. Deceptively resilient, short lifespan, limited offensive capabilities. A flexible species with a shocking amount of variety, but nothing we haven't seen before. The planet itself is not entirely remarkable. Mostly water, high biodiversity, some specimens could be used for research."
"Go on," the cloud flickered.
"On a civilization scale, they're brahmen. Spacefaring and largely peaceful with only occasional squabbles over minor disputes. Their history shows their war-like nature used to be far worse. And, well... this is the interesting part. Their intellect. It's oolke," the crystal growled.
"And that is interesting... how?" the cloud blinked incredulously. "They're a versatile, resilient species with a reasonably capable society that are a bit... on the dim side. Why are you telling me that?"
"Their intellect is oolke, but their combined mathematical knowledge is... I- I'm not sure how to describe it. Here, see for yourself."
The crystal pushed forward a slightly moist globule of dark-blue mass that the cloud turned towards. The mass hummed quietly.
"Fission, space-faring for the last 266 cycles, gravity slingshots... grav- gravity drive?" the cloud gasped. "They've... they've constructed a gravity drive?!"
"Before you ask, sir, I've quadruple-checked. They are, in fact, oolke class."
"How does an oolke tier species create a gravity drive? We've been trying to make one for the last 745 cycles!"
"Sir... they're incredibly irresponsible."
The cloud stared at the crystal silently.
"The- the experiments they've conducted over the past several hundred years, sir, they've done them with reckless abandon. Before they created the gravity drive, they created several miniature black holes that went out of control. They, uh... used to have a moon."
"Used to?"
"A black hole swallowed it."
The two creatures pondered the situation in silence.
"Sir, what do we do now?" the crystal asked.
"I'll be honest," the cloud replied slowly. "I'm not sure if we should give them funds for research... or stop them immediately."