Submitted by Purple_burglar_alarm t3_ydt0g3 in Showerthoughts
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PantaReiNapalmm t1_itudjoo wrote
Wait, no stupid joke on some moms giant ass?
Impressed
consw50 t1_ituek4j wrote
We’ll I’ve been trying to not to speak ill of your mother on the internet but if you insist…
PantaReiNapalmm t1_ituf38y wrote
She asked me if someone wrote something on her again...
Dejavue
consw50 t1_itugc8t wrote
Yeah somebody definitely wrote some thing on her it just says “wide load”
PantaReiNapalmm t1_ituhn6r wrote
Danger: wide load, better run for your life
boxingdude t1_itv38up wrote
Yo momma so fat, she beeps when she backs up!
AcidBathVampire t1_itvp9t6 wrote
Yo momma so fat, she sat on a quarter and squeezed a booger out of Washington's nose
Purple_burglar_alarm OP t1_ittzzyh wrote
That’s a very good point!
JJwdp1 t1_itv97ln wrote
OP's point is still valid, think of the woodlouse and the giant isopod
MasterAnything2055 t1_itv9bkq wrote
My argument wasn’t against insects seeing giants. But that we also do.
sygnathid t1_itvndjp wrote
I think that commenter's point is that those two creatures have very similar forms but one is giant compared to the other, while us and whales have relatively different forms.
If Gigantopithecus was still around, I feel like they'd meet this sort of qualification, being very similar to humans in form but much greater in size.
JJwdp1 t1_itw5nyx wrote
Yep
reiper_ t1_itvih4n wrote
but whales are only times bigger than humans, while humans are 1000x or so bigger than insects
JustKillinTime69 t1_itvluc9 wrote
Blue whales are 2400x larger than a human on average
reiper_ t1_itvrszq wrote
that is the weight, a blue whale is the length of 15 grown men lying down
JustKillinTime69 t1_itvz7uo wrote
Well if you go by length you can't say humans are thousands of times larger than insects.
Even for small insects like ants humans are only like 300-400 times longer.
reiper_ t1_itw191j wrote
i used length because if you go by height blue whales are definitely not enough to be considered giants (one blue whale should be what? 5 humans standing up) specially if you compare the height of a human and an insect
JustKillinTime69 t1_itwbukz wrote
Well that would just be cherry picking using the whales smallest dimension vs the humans largest dimension.
Most appropriate comparison is probably volume
reiper_ t1_itwiq61 wrote
yeah but if we talking about giants then I'd say height is what determines it right?
LeaCTrockboys t1_itu50hb wrote
I feel like youre so huge to some bugs that they perceive you more as an environmental hazard. You take up their whole sightline.
On that note ive always wondered what the smallest living thing that can perceive us at all is. Microscopic animals don't know we are there basically right?
AcidBathVampire t1_ituc7ag wrote
I believe that we are so big to tiny creatures that we are basically invisible. Like, they might perceive us, but they cannot see us.
migueeel t1_ituexgf wrote
Pretty sure the wording is inverse. Perception is when your brain processes stimuli
AcidBathVampire t1_ituqleh wrote
That's what I'm saying. They perceive that something big is near them, but they can't see it because it's so massive that they can't take it in. I would imagine a similar thing might occur if you were swimming in the deep ocean and a whale came past you, the only difference being that you might think "was that a whale?" Whereas a bug is most likely "thinking" "what the hell was THAT?"
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solace1234 t1_itw1voo wrote
Switch see and percieve
joemc04 t1_itv1m5y wrote
I’ve had to go to battle with some spiders. They know we are there and counter move. Flys and gnats seem to know what’s going on too.
AcidBathVampire t1_itv23ue wrote
Well, who's to say what they "know," you know? They know something is going after them, but for all we know they think we're a big bird or something like that.
Yolectroda t1_itvc58i wrote
Or, do they know we're there in the same way that we know that the hurricane is coming to wreck us, or a glacier slowly progressing towards an area, or do they know that there's a being trying to kill them.
AcidBathVampire t1_itvnrea wrote
I would think all 3 of these examples together would be the logical choice. It's an interesting metaphysical conundrum.
blackdragonstory t1_itu3s80 wrote
Not sure if insects have conscience but I wonder what age of bugs gets killed the most. Is it the young and inexperienced that ends up in our house or does it even matter. I wonder how aware they are of us humans. They might move,fly away if we come close to them but if we aren't and are just moving about I wonder if the bugs are keeping an eye on us or just don't care what we are doing until we are close enough. I noticed or at least think some flys are smarter than others. Some flys will sit on corners,some under chairs to avoid being killed meanwhile you have some on the table,window,doors etc just waiting to die I guess.
JesseGT t1_itu985o wrote
I’d love to know the answer but I think they just don’t live long enough for us to truly know. When your lifespan is a couple months it’s just what you can do and what’s worked, maybe for that fly that was out in the open never encountered something that could reach it, if it had only fucked with dogs it thinks just land on the top of a cabinet or something, human comes never seen one and BAM big self high five and it’s no more…
blackdragonstory t1_itu9ll4 wrote
I guess but let's say you wack one,then the other the third and others are watching. They should be able to adapt. Some flys that I would call stupid but unwilling to die are the flys that don't want to land at all,they keep flying,they land somewhere for a few seconds and then again. It's like they know the house is a bad place for flys and desperately wants out. Or maybe I am looking too much i to this lel.
Kajamaz t1_ituhyo2 wrote
Idk, I've setup fly traps and it kills each and every single one of them. They fly into a small container filled with hundreds of dead fruit flys, don't think twice, and die in it as well. So much for adaptability.
Tbh they're just super awesome tiny biological machines really.
blackdragonstory t1_ituo5pq wrote
Maybe they can't tell those flys are dead. And since they live for so short they are prob not experienced enough to know it's a trap.
ChrysMYO t1_itv0nrk wrote
I dont think they learn in that way. I think they react to stimuli more then plan and anticipate. I think you have to move up to rodents and small lizards before you get any animal planning based on past memories.
ApexHolly t1_itv5uzj wrote
Actually, scientists discovered that jumping spiders (cute lil things) have abstract memory, and are able to remember hazards they've previously encountered, as well as take the long way to their target if they think it would be safer. Which indicates that they at least have a rudimentary understanding of cause and effect, allowing them to plan. They also have great vision. There's a video of a jumping spider watching a helicopter overhead.
Having said that, jumping spiders, according to presently available data, seem to be along the upper edge of what "bug" cognition can do, and certainly smarter than the majority of spiders. Although spiders already tend to be fairly smart when compared to other bugs, such as flies.
ChrysMYO t1_itvekcv wrote
Really good point. Yeah I could see a few spiders being able to plan and learn.
JesseGT t1_ituagco wrote
I think we are looking into it to much hence it being a “shower thought” but with that being said and also we just see flys, chances are there are different types of flys but they just look the same to our human eye, like blow flys are bigger and slow so you can slap the shit out of them… maybe there’s quicker ones and I know they dodge you because of air pressure
JesseGT t1_ituair5 wrote
If you sort of clap above the fly in an upward motion chances are you’ll get it!
Purple_burglar_alarm OP t1_itu3ze0 wrote
I want someone to come up with an IQ test for insects now
Outside-Setting-5589 t1_itu8vku wrote
What about whales, elephants, giraffes, giant squids? I mean, it's not like we look like insects exactly, our giants don't need to look like us. Now imagine what a white whale is to an ant.
Shabadoobie2 t1_ituagfk wrote
I wonder if OP meant that insect size varies more? Like a huge Hercules Beetle to a Ladybug?
Purple_burglar_alarm OP t1_itub06r wrote
No nothing as nuanced as that, literally just that we’re giants to them 😂
Shabadoobie2 t1_itub5l7 wrote
Well okay then 😅 Thanks for clearing that up
Purple_burglar_alarm OP t1_itubakq wrote
Thanks for assuming I’m deeper than I actually am!😂
BobbyTables91 t1_itv9cv6 wrote
For whales, giants are fiction
ozmartian t1_itu7mh2 wrote
Pfffft. When Cthulhu and the Old Ones return, then you'll understand the meaning of the term.
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Teal-Fox t1_itusaof wrote
Hi Eren!
When did Reddit make its way inside the walls?
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Polsterschaum t1_itvcyyy wrote
Glad to hear it. As a reward...
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scorpious2 t1_itu1glh wrote
Speaking of giants, humans are megafauna right? (correct me if wrong) that would make us giants. Its just that from the perspective of the giant they do not seem so big unless compared to something smaller
Purple_burglar_alarm OP t1_itu2zi0 wrote
I know what you mean, when my kid was a baby I felt like a giant and now I feel like a one of those training dummies that get beat up
Extension_Canary3717 t1_itucgn8 wrote
Not exactly as I don’t consider other species bigger than humans to be giants
TheSupremeCheeseMeme t1_itufuwp wrote
I came here to find the people that also thought this thought could have been thought outside the shower
ChewyNutCluster t1_itv0nb3 wrote
They seriously remove 90% of my posts, but "We're big to ants" is allowed? My day is ruined.
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betajool t1_ituolxb wrote
Every thought about yourself from the point of view of a pet cat?
To your cat you’re like a giant bear that lives for 500 years, take care of you your whole life and is happy for you to sleep on top of them.
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Littlebotweak t1_itv5ck1 wrote
Not necessarily. Insects don’t really see you, they see something and all that something equates to is stimulus that reaches a threshold and compels the organism to act or react. It’s less “Ehrmagherd giant!” And more “Ehrmagherd the shadow or light changed!”
They don’t need to be able to render “you” visually to respond to cues to avoid you. They need just enough to survive.
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playr_4 t1_itvcl1t wrote
It's literally an entire other species....elephants and giraffes are giants to us.
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Primary_Ant_6715 t1_itua34c wrote
Maybe giants exist because of terrence mckennas shroom-ape theory🤔
MasterAnything2055 t1_ittzy0m wrote
Mostly we imagine giants as giant humanoids.
If it can be any species then whales are pretty giant.