Dogs in grocery stores.

Submitted by Norgyort t3_1106osy in Maine

Twice in the last few months I've seen someone with a dog in Hannies. Today I saw someone pushing a dog around in a stroller, and a few months back someone was going through the store with their pit bull. I think it's pretty gross for an untrained dog to be in a grocery store, especially in areas where there's produce just sitting on shelves and not in sealed containers. I understand some people need service animals, but a dog in a stroller isn't helping anyone, and the pit bull certainly wasn't a service dog. I know 'emotional support animals' have become a thing to skirt pet policy for rentals, but it seems a bit ridiculous to need one for grocery shopping.

I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this recently? According to this link: https://legislature.maine.gov/statutes/17/title17sec3966.html it looks like the only dogs legally allowed in grocery stores are trained service dogs.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j87cren wrote

Dogs in stores really aren't uncommon in Maine, at least in the case of grocery stores, convenience stores and the like. Anything that's not a pet store, essentially.

Sure, there's a law against it, but it's not enforced (depends on the store and the manager(s) or owners, of course). This is because no one gets paid enough to even give a single iota of a shit. Now, if the dog starts pissing and shitting on the floor...then they might start to care. But an untrained dog that isn't eating every food in sight and isn't letting everything loose and isn't directly attacking customers doesn't pose much of a risk.

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Jag_29-2000 t1_j87m42b wrote

As someone who works at one of these stores and makes minimum as long as the dog isn’t trying to bite anyone or is licking all the produce and food, pretty much most don’t mind I really don’t get paid enough to tell someone that plus I feel like a jerk doing so

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SadExtension524 t1_j88cvv2 wrote

Definitely not something store employees should have to deal with. That's a task for a manager. And really, I think fellow customers should call people out on it if the dog is being troublesome. Of course these days, you never know who is carrying a weapon or who will run you down in the parking lot.

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leseulloupgris88 t1_j88gie1 wrote

Most customers are busy saying, "aww, a doggy!" to give two shits about there being a dog in the grocery store. Again, as long as the dog isn't being a hazard, most people don't give a shit.

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Yourbubblestink t1_j89cg14 wrote

I don’t want to be around some filthy dog

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8admto wrote

Well, that's a problem exclusive to you. I don't think your opinion is the majority.

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Yourbubblestink t1_j8ap457 wrote

It’s the law

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8atb7r wrote

But the majority doesn't give a shit.

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Yourbubblestink t1_j8bt24o wrote

Nobody likes your dog but you.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8bxz4u wrote

You keep telling yourself that and living in a bubble of delusion. Maybe someday it'll come true. In the meantime, though, I'll be outside touching the grass and snow and getting some nice fresh air.

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2SticksPureRage t1_j8ddr4x wrote

I probably love his dog.

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Yourbubblestink t1_j8dg9ym wrote

Well, that’s cool because I most certainly don’t. I have my own.

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2SticksPureRage t1_j8dkl58 wrote

Lol I feel sorry for your dogs. I definitely question if someone should be owning dogs when they just randomly hate some strangers dog that they’ve never met/don’t know.

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Yourbubblestink t1_j8dt59a wrote

I don’t want a snout in my crotch in the cereal aisle and I don’t find it cute that your dog is in the store.

If shopping is that hard, make a human friend and bring them along.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8bkg1u wrote

Again, if you hate "filthy dogs" then that's a you problem, and only a you problem. A majority of people, myself included, actually do love dogs, as they can be sweet and loving animals and many of them are not 100% vicious.

Those are only a small handful of cases. That doesn't mean every dog in existence is a murder machine.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8c1cib wrote

> What do you mean by "again" and "you problem"?

You must not have read my response to YBS after he said he didn't want to be around "filthy dogs", so let me reiterate:

> Well, that's a problem exclusive to you. I don't think your opinion is the majority.

As for the "that's a you problem" bit: I'm of the firm belief that the majority of people enjoy the presence of dogs. There's a reason why they've been one of America's most popular pets over the years, if not the most popular pet in America. 2017 and 2018 alone had 38.4% of homes owning one, which amounts to over 48 million. I don't think that's changed all too much in 5 years, and I don't think it'll be going anywhere for many more, either.

> You're wrong. Only those in what is commonly known as "the Western World" are dog crazy. In many countries, China, Korea, Vietnam, etc., people eat dogs, and in most of Africa and the Middle East and much of Central/South America, they are considered vermin. In the US and Canada, the current dog obsession is totally dependent upon the rabies vaccine. If the vaccine suddenly became unavailable and dogs began developing rabies like they did up until around the 1960s/70s, it wouldn't take but a few cases of human rabies for the love affair with the dog to come to a shuddering halt.

...You're aware dogs descended from wolves, which have been around for millennia? I don't think the love for dogs would stop just because a couple dogs got rabies. Emphasis on "a couple" because other canine animals, like coyotes and foxes, get rabies very often (more often than dogs, I'd argue), and in Maine specifically, they are considered vermin by many. Hell, I'd extend that to the rest of the country too, why not? Haven't lived in every state but foxes and coyotes and other such animals killing people and animals isn't Maine-exclusive.

Hell, things got really close a good 15 years ago with human rabies vaccine supplies being limited, and that didn't change much in the long run.

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Norgyort OP t1_j8e53e2 wrote

I don't think the person you're responding to is very reasonable. They say the majority of people like dogs, then two sentences later cite a source showing only 38% of households like dogs enough to own them.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8cfsmq wrote

> You said, "Again, if you hate "filthy dogs" then that's a you problem. You did not say if "YBS hates filthy dogs ...."

If you have to resort to being hyper-specific and using semantics, then I'm sad to report that you have lost the argument before it even started getting off of the ground.

> If the rabies vaccine became unavailable, it would be more than "a couple of dogs" with rabies, it would be thousands.

I focused more on the "it wouldn't take but a few cases of human rabies for people to stop loving dogs" bit for that comment. "A few" cases wouldn't really cause mass panic. A whole mass of cases would definitely be cause for panic. But you underestimate homo sapiens, especially in these times...some of which would say fuck-all to rabies and keep their dogs even if they had it, as insane as it sounds.

> Those limited supplies continue in many locations, and while you might not consider close to 60,000 deaths from rabies -- one of the most horrible deaths known to man -- worldwide of any consequence, the people in those locations where the disease is rampant avoid dogs and treat them like the diseased vermin they are. If dogs in the US began developing rabies, people here would avoid them, too, and if you think otherwise, you're freaking delusional.

If they developed rabies. And they are, but it's not enough to cause crazy amounts of panic in the US specifically, let alone Maine specifically.

I can understand people avoiding rabies carriers (including dogs) in countries where the disease is rampant. But dog and dog owner culture differs in those countries vs. the US. If the CDC put out some kind of a warning that said "stay away from your pets" or "please put them in a designated location for the time being until scientists develop a rabies vaccine and it becomes available to the general public", do you really think people are going to listen? Do you really believe people would give up their dogs or, at worst, kill them so that dogs as a species would go extinct like what all the haters of dogs want? Do you really believe people have that kind of common sense to deviate from the norm and do what they're told, even if it's morally and sensibly correct to do so?

Because in my honest opinion...after the pandemic, the answer to all of those are three hard "no's" across the board. Some people need dogs as (legitimate, licensed, well-trained) ESAs because of disorders or diseases they have. Others view their dogs as their children in everything but blood relation.

Perhaps the point I'm trying to make is: if thousands of dogs got rabies and the rabies vaccine was in short supply or unavailable entirely, I don't think it would go the way you think it would go.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8cp2si wrote

> You confused me with YSB, but refuse to admit it.

And how am I supposed to admit to something I don't know about? I'm not arguing with myself on two accounts. Was I just supposed to correctly predict that I'm confusing you? Your train of thought makes no sense.

> You do not decide who loses the argument, and if you don't even know whom you're addressing, no one can trust anything you say.

Oh wow, my deepest apologies...I didn't know you were a celebrity/government official/other being in high authority. Jeez, talk about uneducated, huh? If you had hit me with the "don't you know who I am" business sooner, it would have saved me the embarrassment of making a fool out of myself!

> A rabid dog was brought into the US and adopted by a family in Pennsylvania a couple of years ago, and although the powerful dog lobby attempted to suppress the incident, there was widespread panic in the area and a multi-million dollar investigation ensued. It was discovered the paperwork on strays coming into the US is sometimes fraudulent and the CDC suspended the importation of dogs from in excess of 100 countries for a 12-month period.

Do you have a link to back that up, by chance? If so then I'd love to see it. Regardless of whether you have legitimate (and yes, I do mean legitimate...give me a .gov or a .org link!) proof or not, though, you lost me at "powerful dog lobby". Like that even exists. That just sounds like silly paranoid conspiracy theorist talk. Are you okay? Do we need to get you therapy? A nice long hug, maybe?

> A single dog with rabies resulted in the foregoing and you don't think thousands of dogs with rabies would generate panic? Dream on.

If -- and that's a big if -- that story is true...maybe it would cause mass panic. Maybe it wouldn't. Who's to say...especially since it won't ever happen. If you want to try and convince me otherwise, that's fine, but rabies vaccines aren't in short supply right now. We're fine. The dogs are fine. Chillax.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8de44c wrote

> It was Yourbubblestink who sad, "I don’t want to be around some filthy dog," but you accused me of saying it. You didn't have to "predict" anything, just check your freaking comments. Are you suffering from some sort of cognitive deficit disorder?

You should be asking yourself that question, my friend. In no way did I accuse you of saying that. I was reiterating my point that I said to someone else entirely to a different person...a person who then proceeded to use cherry-picking and hyper-specificity.

If you're trying to gaslight me, it's not working, lmao.

> All it takes is a simple Google search to ascertain the "story," which you doubt, is 100 percent true. After finding an original article, a normal person would then check the CDC site. Obviously, your research kills are sadly lacking, an indication you are incapable of discussing this or any other topic.

Resorting to ad hominem now, I see. Another indicator you have lost the argument before it even started, and, as you said, "are incapable of discussing this or any other topic". After all...I'm the one who's just arguing for kicks and toying with you at this point.

But I digress. Sure, it made the news. No one panicked. Not a one. And you know why? Because we were all focused on COVID--which I'd right up there with rabies as having a high death rate. It could be argued that it's more dangerous because it can infect anyone and everyone (airborne), far moreso than rabies (only infected saliva), but mileage varies.

Priorities are straight.

> Not only this, you seem to doubt there is a "dog lobby." In the US, dogs are a multi-billion-dollar business and in addition to those who profit significantly from breeding, treating, training dogs, manufacturing food/toys/medications for dogs, etc., etc., there are numerous organizations, such as the Animal Farm Foundation and the so-called National Canine Research Council that lobby state legislatures to repeal breed-specific laws, promote no-kill shelters, etc.

And yet...and yet...you frame it like it's more dangerous than a political lobby. Sure, it has its bad aspects and dark sides (puppy mills, etc.), but from your explanation, it seems pretty tame.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8dj3ss wrote

> Conceited much? Do you really think anyone reads and remembers the crap you say to other people? I don't read half what you say to me!

Says the one who pulled a "don't you know who I am" on me just a couple comments ago? Like I'm expected to know who you are? Like it's law?

If you don't read half of what you say to me, then that confirms all my suspicions about you and tells me all I need to know about my question of "why is this person drawing out this argument they'll probably laugh about in a decade or so from now?"

Really, what is your endgame here? Are you trying to spoonfeed me r/dogfree philosophy in the hopes I'll become anti-dog or something? I'm genuinely curious.

> Are you for real? A lot of people panicked, including those employed by the CDC. And not only did the family who adopted the fleabag panic, they had to take the rabies shots and said they would never, ever adopt another dog. Everyone who cane into contact with the diseased mutt had to take the shots and when it happened, some rescue workers refused to interact with animals from other countries.

Where does it say they wouldn't adopt another dog in the Forbes article? Or in the two articles within that article? That sounds more like "If I were in this person's shoes..." to me.

In addition, where does it say rescue workers refused to interact with animals that came from other countries in any of those three articles?

> What's with the repetition and italics? Repealing breed-specific laws allows pit bulls and other dangerous dogs in communities where most people do not want them, and no-kill shelters is flooding the country with dangerous dogs. Numerous people have been attacked by newly-adopted fleabags, and some have been killed.

Well now I have confirmation that you're of the "every dog is disgusting and I wish them all a very get fucked and die" variety. So thank you. I wasn't quite sure. I had just a tiny sliver of hope that was mercilessly shot and left to die.

The use of "fleabag" says a lot on its own, as well--it's like "crotch goblin" but for dogs--but still.

Not every dog in a no-kill shelter is dangerous, and I can attest to that with personal experience. Similarly, the only "breed-specific" law that has ever been passed in the United States is for pitbulls. No other dog that, say, is ranked on a list of most aggressive breeds--just. Pitbulls. That's why people involved in dog owner culture give said laws such grief when they are enacted: because they view it as discriminatory. Ban one (supposedly) aggressive breed, you have to ban the rest of 'em, or ban any dog that bites a person even if it's just a nip of the finger, etcetera.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8dpqva wrote

> You're a bold-faced liar! I said, "... if you don't even know whom you're addressing, no one can trust anything you say." If you weren't a total dunce, you would know I was referring to your confusing Yourbubblestink and me.

And again, I will ask: how was I supposed to know that? You act like we share a brain when we most certainly do not. Likewise, you also act like YBS and you both share a brain when I'm 95% sure you two are completely different people--he hasn't said a thing about being confused as to whom I'm addressing. You have. He has not. Why are you speaking on his behalf?

I know whom I'm addressing. I spent all of one millisecond looking at your username. And I know the usernames of a lot of regulars of this subreddit. YBS is one of them.

> It says I despise dogs. With the exception of working animals, dogs today are superfluous. In addition to being of no use whatsoever, they are the serial killers and mass murderers of the animal kingdom because they chase down and kill livestock and wildlife animals purely for sport. But their destructiveness doesn't stop there: dog waste destroys grass and everything else it touches, then washes into bodies of water and destroys marine life.

The serial killers and the mass murderers of the entire animal kingdom? Oh God...I feel ashamed to say this got me because I'm a big sucker for stupidity as a form of comedy, but that's just absurd. Nearly busted a lung with that one!

There are many animals that are far higher up in the food chain than dogs. Many who would kill and eat dogs if given the chance. Sure, the problems you mentioned are an issue, but there are animals in the world that are far more of a threat that people are more concerned about than an animal that is generally friendly and is often kept as a pet because that's how history and evolution works. You're making Mount Everest out of a molehill.

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leseulloupgris88 t1_j8fyrgr wrote

Pit bulls actually pass the temperament test with a score much higher than most dogs. But of course if you weren't so happy in your ignorance you'd know this fact. It's not a dogs fault if its owner is a piece of shit.

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SarahDrish t1_j8g3pp0 wrote

>Pit bulls actually pass the temperament test with a score much higher than most dogs. But of course if you weren't so happy in your ignorance you'd know this fact. It's not a dogs fault if its owner is a piece of shit.

The test you're talking about, the ATTS, was created in 1977 by Alfons Ertel, a printer, not an animal behaviorist. He was into schutzhund and created the test to evaluate German shepherds for their suitability as guard dogs. The test favors bold, assertive dogs that aren’t easily intimidated: timid dogs, such as Collies, do not do well on the test, while aggressive dogs, such as pit bulls, do exceptionally well.

Most pit bulls that attack and kill family members -- usually children or the elderly -- were raised from puppies and treated well all their lives. A good example is the two pit bulls that killed the children of pit nutters Colby and Kirstie Bennard in Tennessee last October. The Bennards referred to the monsters as their "house lions" and in one of his Facebook comments, Colby Bennard wrote, “I can assure you, nobody will take Cheech and Mia from myself and Kirstie Jane Satterfield. Ignorance is no excuse to take so many 'best friends' out of this world.” (Bennard apparently had a change of heart because the day after his beloved “pitties” literally ripped his two children to shreds, both dogs were euthanized.)

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leseulloupgris88 t1_j8g554e wrote

I doubt you've known many pit bulls if you classify them as aggressive. Every pit bull I've had or known has been super gentle.

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SarahDrish t1_j8h86b0 wrote

>I doubt you've known many pit bulls if you classify them as aggressive. Every pit bull I've had or known has been super gentle.

I grew up in a rural area where people had watchdogs, and some of our watchdogs were pit bulls, so I've probably "known" more pit bulls than you have. Just because a dog is "super gentle" most of the time doesn't mean it isn't aggressive in a confrontational situation or when its instinctual prey drive kicks in. Most pit bulls used for fighting are gentle outside the fighting pit. The two pit bulls that killed the Bennard children were super gentle until the day they decided to kill the kids.

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furrylandseal t1_j895j27 wrote

Honestly I see this as a major customer relationship issue to be handled by management. If the manager says it’s a problem, they should handle it themselves and not shirk responsibility.

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Norgyort OP t1_j87ey09 wrote

I can understand employees not wanting to deal with customers breaking the law.

It just seems really unsanitary for a dog to be walking around a grocery store, shedding hair and licking things. For some people it could be beyond gross if they're allergic to dogs.

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egoodkowsky t1_j87fqlx wrote

You think the dogs are bad, start looking at the people!

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feina635 t1_j88diy7 wrote

For real. My dogs are definitely cleaner than many if the people I see at Market Basket

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Guygan t1_j891tfm wrote

I was in Hannaford and watched from 5 feet away as a dude punched another dude in the face twice for blocking the frozen food aisle with his cart.

I've never seen a dog punch anyone in Hannaford.

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egoodkowsky t1_j8926lc wrote

I was in Walmart years back in the DVDs, and a guy next to me arched back and hocked a loogie right at Saving Private Ryan. I said nothing, he said nothing and he walked away.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8ae7q8 wrote

Aaaaand that is why I believe in night shopping supremacy. You all really don't know what you're missing until you go shopping at night.

I've walked into stores during the day...I might as well throw myself right into a bonfire with all the intent in the world. That, and the traffic...eugh.

Night shopping means less people, less conflict, less drama...it's just pure utter peace. I can shop to my own heart's desire without having to deal with asshats and doing 2,400 flop sweats over social interactions.

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Verity41 t1_j88pf6r wrote

You’re aware that children are HIGHLY unsanitary yes? I see them in stores all the time picking noses and snotting / coughing on and touching everything. We don’t ban THEM, and talk about “beyond gross”!

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2SticksPureRage t1_j8del9k wrote

Lol, this reminds me of the time I was at KFC. There was two boys in front of me, their father was ordering. One of the boys put the metal line divider thing (not sure what it’s called but it’s there to help people form a line) between his buttcheeks and was just gliding back and forth on it. Lol, have never touched those things since!

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Verity41 t1_j8dl540 wrote

Ewwww. Like all shopping carts with those plastic panels and straps where the kids go… gross.

One of the reasons I completely LOVE winter - it’s normal to wear gloves all the time so you never have to touch that stuff bare handed.

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Guygan t1_j88hvlt wrote

> seems really unsanitary for a dog to be walking around a grocery store, shedding hair and licking things

Weird.

I have two dogs and they are in my kitchen all the time. I've never gotten sick.

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SarahDrish t1_j8a001x wrote

If you choose to live like a dog, that's your prerogative, but you shouldn't force your filthy beasts on others.

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Verity41 t1_j8alzsf wrote

I feel the same about kids. Keep ‘em home and away from the rest of us.

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Beneficial-Basket-42 t1_j8dlgcn wrote

I feel the same way about kids and dogs in grocery stores as well, but the opposite as you it seems. It isn't safe or legal to just leave your kids at home or in the car when you go to a grocery store, so there they are. People will break the windows of your car if they see a dog left in it, so in they go. I think it is usually out of necessity when you see either inside.

I'm not currently a dog owner, but I can tell you, it is much easier to grocery shop without one in tow. The same goes for a child times 10.

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Verity41 t1_j8dnvf2 wrote

For sure. Was tongue-in-cheek actually… I was just attempting to match the hyperbolic hysterical comment of someone who thinks having dogs in the kitchen is “living like a dog”, and that they are “filthy beasts”.

I actually love dogs though I can’t have one right now (gone from home too much). And I understand that of course people cannot leave kids in cars. They sure are walking germ-boxes tho, no one can deny that!

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2SticksPureRage t1_j8dewv7 wrote

But have you seen the video of that one teenager licking the ice cream and putting it back? In fact wasn’t it even a TikTok challenge going around the teen community?

My dog would never.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j87l21s wrote

Yeah...but the best thing you can do is just go at night or early in the morning, if possible. Less people, less dogs, just peace and quiet.

It'll probably get worse come summer. Even though people crack open windows, they'll be taking aaaaaall the dogs into the stores for a leg stretch or exercise or whathaveyou.

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MathematicianGlum880 t1_j87m2e5 wrote

I’ve never ever seen a dog lick something in a grocery store….that’s gross, I would not lick anything in a grocery store. Definitely not healthy for a dog either. People walking in with what have you on their shoes….good lord.

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kubabooba t1_j88h62v wrote

I think it's more unsanitary when people pick and choose vegetables and fruits with their bare hands. Any how mama always said wash your fruits and vegetables when you get home.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8aejgm wrote

Curious as to what you would propose as a solution? Use the bags? Mandatory gloves?

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kubabooba t1_j8aevto wrote

Just wash your fruits and vegetables before consumption

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8atmfj wrote

Ah, I see. Makes sense. I do that with all my groceries anyway. Thank you, Hannie's signs. /j

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dabeeman t1_j8i78br wrote

bodega cats have been a thing for a long time. Kids are just as gross as dogs imho. touching and grabbing everything with disgusting hands.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j89v6hc wrote

Someone in this thread blocked me for saying I’m neither paid nor treated well enough to take the kind of heat an unruly dog owner (or a Karen) would give me. Which is pretty funny.

I wonder how many retail employees they think are willing to risk injury or death for r/dogfree.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8adf8o wrote

Ah, so going by the other comments, "I don't get paid enough to deal with dog and dog owner culture" definitely isn't a more recent problem...interesting.

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Yourbubblestink t1_j8a35pc wrote

That was nearly 25 years ago

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JimBones31 t1_j8a3u40 wrote

There's definitely been much less violence in stores since then?

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SheSellsSeaShells967 t1_j88s1t4 wrote

This is probably my biggest pet peeve. No pun intended. Fake service animals and pets do not belong in grocery stores or department stores. I’ve been nipped at, barked at, seen dogs piss and shit on the floor, etc. Why do people think it’s OK for their dog to sit in a cart? Someone’s food is going to be in that cart later on. Some people are highly allergic to dogs, some are terrified of dogs, and surprise surprise some people just don’t like dogs. As far as I’m concerned, people who do this are just so entitled. And this isn’t something that has gone on forever. This is a relatively new thing, meaning the last 10 years or so. Edit to say that fake service dogs and pets absolutely don’t belong in restaurants.

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Norgyort OP t1_j899kyu wrote

> As far as I’m concerned, people who do this are just so entitled. And this isn’t something that has gone on forever. This is a relatively new thing, meaning the last 10 years or so. Edit to say that fake service dogs and pets absolutely don’t belong in restaurants.

I couldn't agree more. I don't remember seeing dogs in all these places even just a few years ago.

The allergy thing is really serious IMO. What if it triggered an asthma attack in someone? It could be potentially life threatening.

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SheSellsSeaShells967 t1_j89zsf1 wrote

I was in a Walmart a while back and there was a very elderly lady in a wheelchair behind me. With her elderly husband pushing her. She was sobbing uncontrollably and I asked what was wrong. She said that she is terrified of dogs. A dog had just come into the store and was jumping and barking uncontrollably. I went and told the manager about it and he said unfortunately he could do nothing about it.

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Certain-Addendum8130 t1_j9ea9st wrote

Poor lady. I wonder what happened to make her so scared. I've had a few scary moments myself. There are BIG dogs out there. Like the size of a pony. I can't understand being able to handle a dog that size.

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Certain-Addendum8130 t1_j9ea5pe wrote

I mean. I really don't think there's much of an issue as long as the dog is well behaved. I understand people have trauma from dogs, but people have trauma for a lot of things in the world. Part of going out is knowing you might run into things that make you uncomfortable. It isn't really someone else's job to soothe that. As long as the dog is an Esa or service and well trained. I'd also say laying a blanket in the carts if they're placed in there, so they don't shed on the cart or get dander on it. I mean stores are fairly open places so getting allergies from that amount of pet dander is fairly low. I think it is messed up to have a fake service dog tho or a dog that causes noise or distraction. Also I agree dogs do not belong in restraunts. Service dogs are an exception obviously.

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Yourbubblestink t1_j89c53q wrote

Just about everyone has a dog. Most of us can make it through a grocery shopping trip without ours.

If we all brought our dogs to the grocery store the place would be like a kennel. So leave you dog at home,like everyone else. If you are too scared to shop without a dog then get a psychiatrist.

No one loves your dog like you do. The rest of us have our own at home, we don’t care about yours.

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baxterstate t1_j89d2l5 wrote

Some people need to have their dogs with them either because of their psychiatric issues or their perceived psychiatric issues of their dogs.

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Yourbubblestink t1_j89djmv wrote

Yes those people should have human workers with them teaching them how to function in our society. The emotional support animal movement is bullshit that only exists because of the good grace of others.

I don’t want your dog in the store unless you are blind or deaf. If you are just scared or nervous, find a treatment that doesn’t involve me.

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priceless37 t1_j8eg2uj wrote

They aren’t too embarrassed to break the law and draw attention with their not needed dog……if they can’t go to the grocery store without a support animal they can do online shopping. They don’t need to infringe on other peoples rights…. Like people who are afraid of dogs. Such entitlement because they can’t adult. Wahhh

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8afgga wrote

>Yes those people should have human workers with them teaching them how to function in our society.

So they can become embarrassed because they are seen as not being self-sufficient enough to do a simple task? Ahhhh yes, sure, of course. Mass ableism abound.

Seriously, tell me you're neurotypical and able-bodied without telling me you're neurotypical and able-bodied. No, wait...you already did.

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baxterstate t1_j8ahj26 wrote

So we have to put up with dog pooping and peeing in the stores or these snowflakes with special mental needs cannot possibly manage. How about these snowflakes with mental issues train their dogs and be considerate of others, just as they’d like others to be considerate of them?

I’m not asking much from them. Don’t put my health at risk!

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Impossible_Brief56 t1_j8dgsee wrote

Embarrassed? Give me a break. If you have a disability it is time to set aside your pride. Muh leg is broken but I won't wear a cast due to the abelist agenda! Fuck outta here with this bullshit.

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eljefino t1_j89ry6u wrote

If you get agoraphobia because people who don't think you're the specialist little thing are mean to you, maybe stop doing things that make people mean to you such as breaking the law.

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HumpSlackWails t1_j882wnn wrote

Because we have something people are abusing that the rest of society doesn't have the guts to stand up to.

"Its my service animal."

No, it isn't. Service animal actually means something.

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awkwardlazer t1_j88oxst wrote

OP the type of person to report a kid selling lemonade

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Norgyort OP t1_j88sdif wrote

Only if I suspect they’re dodging taxes.

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priceless37 t1_j8egfge wrote

It’s okay to break the law and endanger other people because they want to bring their dog to a place they don’t belong ??? A lemonade stand is hurting no on….. untrained dogs in a food establishment because a person can’t adult??? Big difference

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freetheroux t1_j8recy2 wrote

An “untrained” dog also isn’t hurting anyone

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VegUltraGirl t1_j8agtq2 wrote

A huge pet peeve of mine! Just yesterday at my work, a couple brought their dog inside and I went to them and let them know dogs were not allowed inside, she said “oh I saw the sign, but I figured it would be fine” when I mentioned that it was not fine, the husband asked me if I was on drugs…literally made no sense. But he went on to say only people on drug’s would have an issue with the dog. Then went on to say it was a service dog (which it was not) and pointed to his Veteran’s hat and ignored me. The dog was 100% not a working service dog. He was running loose, all over my work. Not even listening to their commands. I had to leave them alone because the man was getting rude.

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SirStorm99 t1_j88c0mk wrote

I worked at Hannies for years and we were always told to not even bother confronting people with dogs unless the dog was causing a problem because people would just claim it was a service animal (even if it clearly wasn’t) and mangers just didn’t wanna deal with the fight/negative publicity.

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MegatonDeathclaws t1_j8a2n3r wrote

Yeah dude it pisses me off honestly. I saw a dog piss in the produce department and then an employee had to come mop it up. Most of these animals are certainly not service animals it’s just stupid people bringing a dirty ass dog into a grocery store. It’s unsanitary and just plain shitty to do.

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VegUltraGirl t1_j8ah4md wrote

That’s disgusting and people suck so bad! This happens on so many public places and shops.

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yupuhoh t1_j88jobz wrote

You should see what kids do during the course of a day and then touch all the shit you buy lol

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priceless37 t1_j8efhq9 wrote

It is disgusting but the people who bring their pets to stores with them are just looking for attention. It’s a certain type of personality who does it. I’m my opinion they are usually trashy people who have nothing else so they look for attention from people oohing over their dog. I feel sorry for those selfish people that they care so little about anyone else and their needs….. it’s all about them. I find them pathetic honestly.

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sgdulac t1_j895zzu wrote

I managed a clothing store for 16 years and we let dogs in all the time. We would never confront someone as you never know how these people will react. In no way do the sales associates at hannies ( whatever this is), get paid enough to confront people about thier dogs in a store if they are not hurting anyone. That being said, as a customer, I would so much rather have a dog in a grocery store than toddler or baby. So there is that. I have seen kids do really stupid things in stores and never seen a dog act like an asshole in a store.

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ToesocksandFlipflops t1_j8bb2cj wrote

Hannies = hannafords grocery store

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sgdulac t1_j8bopr2 wrote

L thought that after I wrote it. I just went to a hannaford today but I have never called it that. Good to know. Omfg I am old, I remember when it was shop and save.

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sgdulac t1_j8bpflz wrote

Well it was a banana republic that made a shit ton of money so I had to be doing something right. Only 1 customer ever complained and I asked the customer with the dog to leave. As far as fleas, I would put money on the fact that the dogs that walk into a business casual clothing store dont have fleas. I had happy employees and happy customers with high sales. All good with a few dogs in there.

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eljefino t1_j89r73o wrote

There are "givers" and "takers" in the world.

People with emotional support animals want to see how much they can bend the rules in their favor, to be "special." Woe upon the person who challenges them. When these people mingle with us in daily life, they take, take, take.

An emotional support animal may only not be discriminated against in housing. Supermarkets only have to allow service animals, like seeing eye dogs or those epilepsy dogs... "prescription" dogs.

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canIcallyoupigfucker t1_j8bo8ls wrote

You live in Augusta? I’ve seen a stroller-dog-lady in Hannys in Augusta.

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Norgyort OP t1_j8bx827 wrote

The pit bull was one of the Augusta locations, the stroller was not

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Dependent-Act-6015 t1_j8bvwd0 wrote

I work in a restaurant in sopo. We have had some people bring in their dogs that are not service animals. When I went up the table one time the dog was barking at me and causing a ruckus. Guy claimed it was an emotional support animal. If it can't behave it shouldn't be out like that. Especially in an indoor restaurant

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Norgyort OP t1_j8bxkhg wrote

An emotional support animal to eat at a restaurant. Seems a tad bit ridiculous to me.

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KdawgEdog t1_j8dkfah wrote

I've brought my gfs dog in hanny before. It felt a little wrong(he is not a service dog) I held him. If someone told me I couldn't have him in there(you included) I would have gone back in the car probably.

Maybe you and employees should speak up next time if it really bothers you, I'd respect that.

What's my excuse for breaking the law? I guess lyme disease has me not giving much fucks about simple laws that really are not harmful. There is legal laws that can really get me going that I feel are bigger issues. I guess we all have our thing.

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WickedLobstahBub t1_j8a853z wrote

I’ve seen a guy pushing his little dog around in a pink stroller…poor dog had a pink dress on and looked miserable. Idk man people are weird

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Norgyort OP t1_j8a95mj wrote

The dog I saw in the stroller did not look happy either.

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Scooterjean86 t1_j8afkof wrote

More concerned with lazy people blocking the exits by parking cars in the fire lane when they have to "go in for a quick minute" or are waiting for someone inside. Can't count how many times I've almost been hit by traffic because they park so close to the doors. It's impossible to see traffic with the cars in the way

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mainlydank t1_j8aho62 wrote

It's a show dog man, it's got papers. You can't board them.

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2SticksPureRage t1_j8dfvq4 wrote

Seriously, how many of you guys have seen dogs walking around grocery stores licking the produce?!?!

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TarantinoFan23 t1_j8i0l1b wrote

The same people who bring dogs into stores are the same type who bring their kids to the bar.

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ecco-domenica t1_j892jkt wrote

They won't do anything about it until we start complaining. Ask to see the manager every time you see one or at least ask for and fill out a comment card. Every time. Unless they get enough documented complaints they'll continue to take the path of least resistance.

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timothypjr t1_j89ouic wrote

How does this really affect you? Ignore the dog. Move on.

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Norgyort OP t1_j89wcu1 wrote

I'm not interested in buying food that has dog hair or dog drool on it. Don't forget that there's always a risk of them jumping on or attacking people.

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Sir_Drinks_Alot22 t1_j8a2u9v wrote

Legit saw a parrot on someone’s shoulder in Portland hannaford. Those shit more than dogs do.

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BSG365 t1_j8hoyv3 wrote

Every rescue staffie gets a 20$ Amazon “service dog” harness

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freetheroux t1_j8reafr wrote

Hate people like you, not everyone has a visible disability. Some old lady tried to tell me off for having my dog in the store and I just got what I wanted and left. Most people are expecting all service dogs to have a cringey vest and be complete robots, which just isn’t true in most cases.

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Norgyort OP t1_j8rqz3l wrote

In my post I said there's nothing wrong with service dogs. A dog in a stroller is not a service dog, and the pit bull on a leash was clearly not a service dog either.

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freetheroux t1_j8s172b wrote

There is no such thing as a clear service dog though. A dog in a stroller could very much be a service dog as much as a pitbull. A lot of people in Maine train their own service dogs, which is legal. And because of that most of the service dogs in this state don’t act how you would expect a service dog to act.

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Norgyort OP t1_j8s6437 wrote

> A dog in a stroller could very much be a service dog

That's ridiculous, a dog in a stroller isn't providing a service to anyone. It's just someone looking to show off their dog and skirt around rules to get attention.

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freetheroux t1_j8sm28q wrote

The dog could be trained to alert the owner of low blood sugar or of an upcoming seizure. There are many other types of disabled people than just the ones that can’t see. Maybe the owner is deaf and has the dog to alert them of loud noise, which it can definitely do in a stroller. Yes, in most instances dogs in strollers wouldn’t be service dogs, but it is a real possibility.

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Norgyort OP t1_j8t1qh8 wrote

Fair enough, but there are better ways to monitor those things that don't involve dogs.

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freetheroux t1_j8t9t7i wrote

Well some people hate electronics as much as you hate dogs.

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baxterstate t1_j88yzff wrote

You’ll never solve this problem. Denying pets is the new racism.

I would love to see all stores enforce some sort of health laws against all pets except for blind people. And I’m a dog owner!

Any big box store or supermarket that tries it will get demagogued to death in the media.

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SqueeBug t1_j8a0vvd wrote

So there was a dog in a stroller and a pit bull? Why not also say “dog” for the pit bull?

No need to pit bull shame. Pitties, just like every other breed, are great dogs if trained. Don’t be one of those squids who feels the need to point out if a dog is a pit bull. Also 50% chance the dog wasn’t actually a pit and you’re just saying that because you didn’t like it.

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SqueeBug t1_j8dauye wrote

You are correct, name calling doesn’t alter facts. However, your “facts” are inaccurate and you are still wrong. More evidence here

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Norgyort OP t1_j8dh70s wrote

An opinion piece from Fox news is more factual than actual statistics lol

Edit: That's also over 10 years old

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SqueeBug t1_j8j909e wrote

As much as I wanted to move on from your comment and just let you be wrong, I feel compelled to try one last time to educate you. Here is a study from a real life veterinary journal that shows that even shelter workers can’t correctly identify pit bulls. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S109002331500310X

Now if a shelter worker can’t identify a pit bull, what makes you think the average person or a police officer can?

Unless you can show me the DNA results from the dogs who committed the attacks, the data is unreliable.

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doinks_n_dabs69420 t1_j87uvia wrote

You could always make your order online and have the kids bring it out to your car.

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TonyClifton86 t1_j895e9k wrote

Gets life. Where do you think produce comes from sterile factories? No it comes from dirty stinky farms. Dog in a grocery store ain’t gonna hurt no produce or meat… maybe people can’t leave their dog home, or are in a bind & it is too cold outside to leave in the car. Seriously so many other issues in life & this is your hill to die on. smh

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Norgyort OP t1_j896ilh wrote

Have you ever considered that some people may be allergic to dogs? It’s also possible to leave the heat (or AC) on in a car without being in it.

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TonyClifton86 t1_j896y0g wrote

I am allergic to honey & roses but I still am able to go to the grocery store without incident. Also leave the dog in the car with heater or AC with out the car on??? Yeah sounds super safe & not a reality. Again get over the fact you can’t control everything in life & again the food in the grocery store is not sterile in any way… even the packaged food has been touched by many many people all with germs little hands. The dog isn’t touching anything except the floor with his paws / the same as a person with their feet/ shoes.

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Norgyort OP t1_j898dv6 wrote

> Also leave the dog in the car with heater or AC with out the car on??? Yeah sounds super safe & not a reality.

The car would be left on to power the heater or AC unit. And it is quite safe, remote starters for preheating/cooling cars have been a thing for a very long time.

> The dog isn’t touching anything except the floor with his paws / the same as a person with their feet/ shoes.

The dog sheds and hair gets everywhere.

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TonyClifton86 t1_j898s58 wrote

You will never change my mind on this thread. I don’t care if there are dogs with every single customer in the store. Also I would never leave my dog alone in a car that was running in any way shape or form. So many things could happen to them the car or others in a blink of an eye. Too many variables. And you don’t think people shed? Hahahhhaha they do. Hair gets everywhere. Plus skin.

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Norgyort OP t1_j899xk5 wrote

> I don’t care if there are dogs with every single customer in the store.

It's not about you, try having some empathy for other people.

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TonyClifton86 t1_j89dlh6 wrote

The same could be said about you. Try having some empathy for people who need their dogs with them at that time. Grocery shopping is stressful for some. Or they don’t have a place to keep their dog or it is their choice not any other reason. Your germ / shedding argument holds no weight. Your talked about allergies nope not valid argument. Safety could have been a concern but I have seen crazy people & kids at a grocery store & so nope that isn’t a valid argument. The only valid argument you could come up with is your don’t like it. I said I don’t mind & you turned it around like I’m the one with out any empathy… look in the mirror. Also I will go out on a limb & guess you are a control freak who doesn’t like dogs. Just by how you responded to me, I can tell you have to be heard & prove your point. And secondly who doesn’t love seeing a dog someplace, who? People who don’t like dogs like you. Dogs are not the issue. It is you.

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SarahDrish t1_j89y410 wrote

>Try having some empathy for people who need their dogs with them at that time . Grocery shopping is stressful for some. Or they don’t have a place to keep their dog or it is their choice not any other reason.

With the exception of the blind, people do not need their dogs with them all the time, and anyone who can't shop for groceries without their damned dog should be under the supervision of a mental health professional.

In addition to biting, dogs can transmit all sorts of bacteria to humans via their urine, crap, saliva, etc., particularly children, and such bacteria can result in blindness in children, the amputation of limbs and death. If you want to wallow around with dogs at home, that's your prerogative, but don't force your filthy beast on others!

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TonyClifton86 t1_j89yh97 wrote

😂😂😂😂😂 yes. Your post shows so much empathy for people with PTSD or other disabilities that dogs are used to help treat. I would rather wallow amongst dogs than the likes of you. I can tell you that.

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Norgyort OP t1_j8acu0k wrote

What about people with PTSD from dog attacks?

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Norgyort OP t1_j89gdk6 wrote

> The same could be said about you. Try having some empathy for people who need their dogs with them at that time.

In my OP I said service dogs are fine, so no the same cannot be said about me.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j89lf1w wrote

If service dogs are fine, then why do you keep bringing up that people are allergic to dogs like it’s a valid reason to keep them out of stores? It’s not like being a service dog makes you stop spreading allergens.

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Norgyort OP t1_j89w62a wrote

Because service dogs are trained not to jump on people and interact with anything else in the store. Untrained dogs are far more likely to be jumping on or licking things/people.

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TonyClifton86 t1_j8aiqv3 wrote

You have no idea of the level a dog may or may not have.. no more than I can tell how your kid is gonna act in the store. Kids are way worse because at least most dog owners keep their dogs on a leash for their safety & others, the same can not be said about children & they have hands unlike dogs.

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TonyClifton86 t1_j89lnr7 wrote

Again I stand by my opinion and assessment of your personality & dislike for dogs.

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SarahDrish t1_j89yha0 wrote

>Again I stand by my opinion and assessment of your personality & dislike for dogs.

Liking dogs isn't a requirement for living, working and shopping in this country. People are free to like or dislike whatever they choose. How would you feel if people started walking around in stores with snakes hung around their necks or tarantulas on their shoulders?

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penfrizzle t1_j8ep0mh wrote

Whatever,My dog sleeps with my kids, hangs around in our kitchen while food is being made, lays out at the dinner table, has free access to our pantry, and some times my kids even sneak food to him under the table. All of this after he poops outside and licks his own butt.

Guess what, most people we know and visit co-habitat with dogs too.

I think it is incredibly rude to blatantly ignore that rules set by the owner of private property (aka hannaford) when you are visiting their land...but a dog in stroller? That's hilarious

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Norgyort OP t1_j8epo9l wrote

And you’re free to make that choice for yourself. Plenty of people don’t want dog hair or drool in their food though, and they should be able to shop for groceries without worrying about it.

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penfrizzle t1_j8fbesb wrote

If I had to decide who was more ridiculous between:

A: someone who brings a dog to the grocery store in a stroller

B: Someone who post about said dog on reddit

I'll pick B all day

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Norgyort OP t1_j8fkjhj wrote

One is breaking the law and the other is asking if anyone else has noticed other people breaking the law, but you do you.

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penfrizzle t1_j8fw951 wrote

I will do me, and look forward to your post about people going 65 in a 60

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Norgyort OP t1_j8g1nz9 wrote

I’ll PM you when it’s posted.

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nightwolves t1_j8by6vx wrote

Kids are more unsanitary but go off

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Norgyort OP t1_j8c1i96 wrote

I’ve seen dogs eat their own poop, no way are they cleaner than people.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j8d2c25 wrote

Kids pick their nose, suck their thumb and then fondle the grapes, pal.

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Norgyort OP t1_j8d7zjl wrote

Good point, that's way worse than a dog eating poop and then licking stuff.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j8d9jd0 wrote

The point is that if you’re making this argument, you should agree that 1. we should consider having similar legal constraints in place for young children and 2. that employees of these establishments should be incentivized to take the risk enforcing existing laws, which they are not.

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Norgyort OP t1_j8dat3v wrote

Do you not see that there's a massive difference between a human and a dog?

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j8db74s wrote

Besides allergens and physical makeup, there is little difference between a toddler and a dog. Your position is inconsistent, and my conclusion is that you really just personally don’t wanna see dogs in stores and you’re cherry-picking parts of legitimate arguments not because they’re important to you, but because they’re convenient for you.

If you really want these rules enforced, send your complaints to Walmart or Delhaize, not Reddit. S’not gonna happen on current wages and benefits.

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Norgyort OP t1_j8de0ka wrote

Nothing about my position is inconsistent. Your argument is based entirely on whataboutism and ignores the fact that dogs are humans are not the same. Humans do not shed fur everywhere, humans are not allergic to other humans, kids do not bite people and transmit rabies to other humans. The coronavirus pandemic started due to zoonotic disease transmission because of animals in a food market, we should be trying our best to avoid another one happening.

If you read my original post you'd realize that I'm not asking people on reddit to enforce these laws, I'm asking them if they've also seen an uptick when they're out shopping for groceries.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j8dfdwd wrote

Here’s what I can tell you. In my orientation to start working my retail location, part of our training was how to handle non-service dogs, and our directions were basically skirting around a message that essentially amounted to “if they argue, there’s nothing you can do”. We’re not legally allowed to touch guests, not even if we’re watching them walk out the doors with a television they haven’t paid for. We also are told not to call the police to handle an animal that’s not doing anything, because the police can sometimes escalate benign situations.

Also, for the record: I have had to clean up human shit from in front of the guest services desk at my workplace at 8 in the morning. Literally minutes after we opened our doors. So forgive me if I seem dismissive of your argument that dogs are more gross than humans.

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thehell-jar t1_j8cjs36 wrote

if you don't like dogs just stay home. we don't like seeing you in the grocery store either, but we can't run you out of town.

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Norgyort OP t1_j8d80rh wrote

No need to be nasty

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thehell-jar t1_j8ddglh wrote

used to work for hannaford, employees can't tell people with animals to leave and as long as they're not causing any issues (barking etc) than what's the problem?

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Norgyort OP t1_j8decd0 wrote

People may be allergic to dogs, dogs licking stuff like produce, dogs attacking people.

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thehell-jar t1_j8ihlyz wrote

dogs licking produce is some real r/that happened shit. people however constantly touch and sample produce. allergic to dogs? blow your nose and move on.

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DiamondD1997 t1_j892qbq wrote

How about, get over yourself, dogs were here before us anyway, show some respect

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SarahDrish t1_j89w4wi wrote

> dogs were here before us anyway, show some respect

Huh? Dogs did not evolve naturally, they were created by humans from wolves.

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SarahDrish t1_j87vsve wrote

When I see a dog in the store, I report it to the manager. An establishment can be fined for allowing non-service dogs in stores/restaurants where they aren't allowed because it's a health hazard. Also, people, including children, have been attacked by dogs in stores. You should post a negative review about the store in question and/or contact the business owner.

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JimBones31 t1_j88p462 wrote

I've been aggressively confronted by more people than dogs. I say we should ban people that aren't me. 🙄

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SarahDrish t1_j89qei2 wrote

How many of those aggressive people attacked and tried to rip your face off?

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JimBones31 t1_j89qth2 wrote

None. The same number as the dogs.

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SarahDrish t1_j89rcsj wrote

You should try reading the news occasionally. There have been numerous attacks by dogs in stores throughout the U.S.

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JimBones31 t1_j89rnsu wrote

You should try reading the news occasionally. There are way more attacks by people in stores throughout the U.S.

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SarahDrish t1_j89wu8d wrote

>You should try reading the news occasionally. There are way more attacks by people in stores throughout the U.S.

Yours is one of the most asinine comments I've ever read -- even on Reddit -- and that's saying a LOT. Try to stay on topic: this discussion is about dogs in grocery stores. By your reasoning, we may as well allow horses, cows, pigs, roaches and everything else imaginable in grocery stores because "there are way more attacks by people."

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JimBones31 t1_j89xbng wrote

The discussion is about dogs. I have actually seen people attack each other and have not seen a dog attack a person. If you want to be asinine then I suppose I've also never seen a horse, cow, pig, or roach attack a person.

Enjoy your smoldering rage. I'll enjoy animals and civility 🤷✌️

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SarahDrish t1_j89zn1s wrote

You're totally missing the point, probably because your brain is addled from all those gas fumes you breathe as a result of having your nose perpetually affixed in some dog's rear end!

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j893bmj wrote

Hey, I work in a grocery store where dogs are sometimes around. The worst they do is sniff clothes that aren’t even being worn by people. People, on the other hand…

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SarahDrish t1_j89r43f wrote

> The worst they do is sniff clothes that aren’t even being worn by people.

I'm sure a lot of Delta flight attendants said the same thing until an "emotional support" pit bull ripped another passenger's face off and the company got sued! There are reasons dogs do not belong in certain locations -- including grocery stores -- and if you are so cavalier about the health and safety of customers, you should find another job.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j89s1my wrote

Or maybe our workplace should incentivize us more to take heat from entitled guests. Like owners of unruly dogs. Or you.

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SarahDrish t1_j89si0m wrote

First, people in grocery stores are customers, not "guests." Second, the owners of business establishments are obligated to ensure the safety of their customers, and it's apparent you don't give a damn about the individuals you're supposed to be serving.

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freetheroux t1_j8rere9 wrote

No pitbull has ever “ripped a face off” keep making up and exaggerating stories.

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SarahDrish t1_j8sjckx wrote

I suggest you read the news occasionally: numerous people have had their faces ripped off by pit bulls.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article258614418.html

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/sickening-video-shows-womans-face-7660626

https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/22/pit-bull-attacked-boy-15-and-ripped-half-his-face-off-13950258/

They also rip off arms, legs, hands, scalps, etc., etc., etc.

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freetheroux t1_j8skzvs wrote

Again no pitbull has ever ripped off a face. Those are very clearly exaggerations. A pitbull can disfigure a face and take skin off, but it can not “rip off a face”

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SarahDrish t1_j8syn3k wrote

>Again no pitbull has ever ripped off a face. Those are very clearly exaggerations. A pitbull can disfigure a face and take skin off, but it can not “rip off a face”

These are not "exaggerations." The "skin" of the face is the face! There's something seriously wrong with you, but then if there wasn't, you wouldn't be bragging about taking your damned dog into stores where dogs do not belong!

Pit bulls have also ripped off people's heads.

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freetheroux t1_j8tako8 wrote

I’m done, can’t debate someone who doesn’t follow basic definitions of words. A part of someone’s face is not someone’s whole face. The skin is not able to rip off the face by being pulled in one specific spot, it’s literally not possible. Another breed of dog can rip a face off because of the way they bite. But pits bite and then stay biting, to rip a face off would require multiple bites. Omg and now you believe a dog can rip a head off a human, you are just straight up delusional

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SarahDrish t1_j8urqmw wrote

>I’m done, can’t debate someone who doesn’t follow basic definitions of words. A part of someone’s face is not someone’s whole face. The skin is not able to rip off the face by being pulled in one specific spot, it’s literally not possible. Another breed of dog can rip a face off because of the way they bite. But pits bite and then stay biting, to rip a face off would require multiple bites. Omg and now you believe a dog can rip a head off a human, you are just straight up delusional

When ER doctors describe some of those attacked by pit bulls in official medical records as having their faces "ripped off," that's all the definition anyone with any common sense needs. Furthermore, no one said the skin of those who have their faces ripped off were being pulled in "one specific spot," and no, pit bulls do not always "bite and then stay biting." In April 2013, 2-year-old Beau Rutledge of Atlanta had his head ripped off by the family pit bull. The only ones posting here who are delusional are you and the other pit nutters, and I seriously doubt you'd recognize a pit bull if one bit you in the behind!

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KezarLake t1_j88oz9m wrote

Ok Karen.

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SarahDrish t1_j89q5w2 wrote

When people have nothing to support their position, they always resort to name-calling.

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