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inkseep1 t1_jb3njfj wrote

There seems to be 2 schools of thought on that. Either tile under the base cabinets or tile around cabinets. I prefer tile under cabinets. If you ever replace them with new cabinets then you have the tile in place and there will not be a risk of a gap that has to be filled in. Some say tile under the appliances like the dishwasher but around the cabinet bases. If you do that then the dishwasher sets higher than the cabinets so there might not be room under the countertop. If you don't tile under the cabinets or dishwasher then the dishwasher sets down in a little well so it might be harder to get it back out from under the countertop since there will be a lip there. It might depend on your dishwasher height.

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iDoWhatIWant-mostly t1_jb4kj6v wrote

Our flooring contractor didn't tile under our dishwasher. The first time it leaked, the water soaked into the drywall behind it and did a lot more damage.

After I fixed the dishwasher, I used the tile remnants they left behind to tile under it. Worth it for the peace of mind.

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cincymatt t1_jb4z6dr wrote

We generally don’t go under dishwashers. You have to deal with electrical lines and often isn’t enough headroom to raise the floor another 1/4”.

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evoltap t1_jb5qgu6 wrote

If the cabinets are installed on top of the tile, there is no issue getting the dishwasher in. Dishwashers are all made to fit perfectly under a 34/5" cabinet, and have room for leveling.

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John-John-3 t1_jb42lvu wrote

Keep in mind depends on type of flooring. If you're doing laminate or vinyl plank you shouldn't have the cabinets sitting on top of that.

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myboybuster t1_jb49ay9 wrote

This is the answer. DO NOT place the cabinets ontop of a floating floor.

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sammy-p t1_jb4nzbm wrote

It will have absolutely no effect on the floors.

The lowers are anchored to the wall, most of the weight is at the studs. This is literally just something flooding manufacturers say so that they have a reason to void your warranty.

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myboybuster t1_jb5a65w wrote

Im not sure where you are from but it will absolutely have an effect on flooring if your in a climate with fluction in temperature

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sammy-p t1_jb5azin wrote

From southern Ontario Canada with the most climate fluctuations you can imagine. Also a professional cabinet installer. I can tell you almost certainly that a floating floor will not buckle with the cabinets on top. I have never seen it happen personally. I always ask people who claim this to tell me what they think weighs more - the lower cabinets screwed to the wall, or the full depth 36” French door fridge loaded full of groceries that they are going to set right on top of the floor. Same with the stove, and your big ass leather sectional couch. If the cabinets are going to “pin” the floor and cause it to buckle, then all those things are absolutely going to as well. Except that they don’t.

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evoltap t1_jb5qsag wrote

There is no problem putting cabinets on any flooring. They are screwed to the studs. Source: I used to do this professionally for a company contracted by home depot. there were very strict "best practices" in order to avoid any call backs, and going on top of any flooring is not an issue.

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Senior_Cheesecake155 t1_jb6g35w wrote

The issue isn’t with the cabinets, it’s with the floor not being able to expand/contract/float because of the weight of the cabinets on it. How big of an issue this is will depend on the size of the room

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evoltap t1_jb6ikcl wrote

Gotcha. I I personally wouldn’t want that type of floor in a kitchen anyways

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andrewbrocklesby t1_jb3uu6n wrote

I've just done my kitchen, with two flooring options. It was a new build kitchen, moved the kitchen to a new space.
Existing flooring I have finished first, but that was sanding and polishing floorboards that I didnt want all that mess in the new kitchen.

New build portion that needed finished flooring, kitchen went in first then flooring to under cabinets, sort of, just enough to be covered by the kicks.

You dont want cabinets sitting on a floating floor, but if you have solid flooring like solid floorboards or tiles, then you would want them under the cabinets.

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hunterbuilder t1_jb48ouf wrote

If your flooring is attached, like hardwood or tile, you have the option. If it's a floating floor, many of them are not allowed under cabinets (of course you can do what you want but voids warranty). I've seen one LVP that is allowed under cabinets if it's glued down. So if you have flooring picked out that might make your decision for you.

IMO as an installer and remodeler, it's generally a waste to put kitchen flooring under cabinets. Generally by the time you decide to change your cabinet layout, the flooring will be due for an update too. It's very seldom (if ever?) that I've seen someone want to move kitchen cabinets and keep the original flooring.

On the other hand, in higher-wear rooms like bathroom, laundry, mud room etc, I recommend flooring before cabinets because the odds of replacing those cabinets sooner are much higher, and the amount of extra flooring is smaller.

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Neptune_Ferfer t1_jb3qzvz wrote

It really depends on what your subfloor is, what your cabinets are, and the new flooring. Our kitchen reno had to be done because cheap builder grade mdf cabinets were put directly on the cement subfloor and they were damaged by humidity and crumbling when they were removed.

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No_Bass_9328 t1_jb3o3n5 wrote

I've done two kitchens and put flooring in first, going beyond line of kickplates and gables. Reason was faster as didnt have to cut tight to all the gables etc where you don't use baseboard. Just my preference. Does mean you have to protect floor for tile bcksplash etc but I use building paper and tape it down till everything is finished anyway.

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ogbytheboat t1_jb3mguo wrote

Cabinets first. Flooring is last thing ya want done On a project like that

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evoltap t1_jb3vhjg wrote

I used to do kitchen installs for a major company. Tile/flooring under the cabinets was our preference. When/if the cabinets need replaced or upgrading in the future but the tile is still wanted, you are stuck with the footprint of the old kitchen. Also, the standard counter height of 36” is based off of a 34.5” base cabinet, so whatever your flooring height is can throw that off if added later, unless you shim that extra amount in the cabinet install.

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scottreds2k t1_jb3tr7j wrote

I'm 6' 3". When I did my kitchen, I did the floors then cabinets. I wanted the cabinets to be as high as possible. The original was tiled up to the cabinets and I would get cramps in my back from leaning over working at the counter tops.

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No_Carpet7125 t1_jb4eq4p wrote

I'm the same size and did the same thing. It is amazing what that extra half inch height on the countertops does for ergonomics.

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Wicked_smaht_guy t1_jb4oipb wrote

I put mine on a platform made of 2x4 and 1/2 inch of plywood. my countertops are now at least 38 inches tall, its amazing. no one has ever said they are too tall(wife is 5'3") and my back feels amazing

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fun_guy02142 t1_jb4g52d wrote

Put the flooring down in the entire kitchen, wall to wall. In 20 years when you change the layout of the cabinets, you’ll thank me.

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tatanka01 t1_jb4rpxe wrote

We recently had our kitchen done by a custom kitchen company and used porcelain tile. They tiled the whole floor and set everything on the tile. I'm pretty sure that floor will withstand WW III.

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TheRealVillain666 t1_jb4ebph wrote

I have just had my kitchen fitted, the fitter left 13mm short for the boards under the cupboards so flooring can be slid under it.

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sammy-p t1_jb4nnuk wrote

That sounds horrible. I certainly hope your floor is laser friggen level

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TheRealVillain666 t1_jb4ntur wrote

There is plenty of room for grout and tile.

And I have to make a slight adjustment to part of the floor which is raised slightly where I had an island.

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Mesoposty t1_jb4qdwm wrote

So cabinets should be installed then flooring, because flooring is often replaced much more often then the cabinets

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Wicked_smaht_guy t1_jb4qzb6 wrote

I have 2 reasons I went cabinets first,
-I am tall, so I put my cabinets on a 2 inch high platform. so now countertops are 38" off the finished floor. which is awesome. it should be the new standard, even my short wife loves it
-I used expensive wood floor in the kitchen. so no reason to put that under the counter tops. saved me a few hundred

I did put it under the fridge.

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exaybachae t1_jb5dqfg wrote

If you're installing flooring and cabinets, install the flooring first. Good flooring is more permanent, cabinets get worn and replaced occasionally. You don't want to have to redo a floor later because the cabinets change.

Sometimes this is not an option however. Plus, I've done tile in new builds where they put in cabinets first then tile around, probably to save on cost (30 houses were built as fast and cheap as possible).

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Glockgirl13 t1_jb4ifeo wrote

I’d do floors first, then cabinets. Less tedious cutting and otherwise, for me, find it to be the “proper” way. A lot of companies will do it last and leaving the subfloors bare underneath and I suspect it’s so they can save on material.

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