Submitted by LookingM4FnearUCONN t3_yb1mgr in Connecticut

Sorry I’m from the south where we don’t have fireplaces and fires 🔥. Outside in fields only. I have tried to make 4/5 fires lately and they all smoke out my house. What am I doing wrong? I am opening the vent thing completely. And making sure it’s hot in there but after 15/20 mins I am smoked out of my whole house. Any one willing to help!??

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redd-whaat t1_ite60f8 wrote

Sounds like you’ve opened the flue.

The next culprit is extreme temperature differences. Cold chimney doesn’t let heat rise and you get backdraft until it heats up. But it’s not that cold yet.

Next culprit would be blocked chimney. An animal nest or something else. How long have you lived in the house and when’s the last time you had the chimney cleaned?

But nine times out of ten it’s the flue.

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite6zvn wrote

Will have to check chimney for blockage. Don’t have a cap so maybe

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sucksatgolf t1_ite8eh8 wrote

Don't light another fire until you have the chimeny inspected. Ask the chimeny person about how to safely operate it. Lots of people overlook having chimneys cleaned and inspected. If your new to the area there's a chance the prior owner never had it done simply from not using it. A chimney with heavy creosote or animal nests can cause a chimney fire which can easily get into your walls or attic. We get these calls often during winter. Please also put a CO alarm in or near where the fire is. A blocked or unopened flue causing smoke build up and a CO condition which can be deadly very quickly. Please get a CO detector if you plan to use the fireplace for fires!

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urBEASTofBURDENog t1_ite8i5c wrote

You don't have a cap??? You should have started with that. We have a bird that makes nests in them.

Also Google priming a flu. It's easy

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite8y10 wrote

Yeah looking into that, house is 3 stories so getting up there isn’t easy

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Sparker355 t1_itehiav wrote

As people said, get that thing inspected and cleaned! The temperature difference comment is legit but I’d be surprised if thats your issue this time of year. Either way (after you get the thing inspected), make a torch by tightly rolling up a big piece of newspaper then light it, hold it up towards the top (by the open flue) to get hot air moving up), then light crumbled newspaper sitting on top of the wood, then light newspaper on the sides of the pile of wood and then light under the wood…… also, make sure you get seasoned wood. A lot of places will sell you crap wood that won’t burn easily and will create a lot of smoke

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_itei6xb wrote

Even if it was crappy wood and the flute was opened and primed would the smoke enter the house? Instead of going up the chimney?

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urBEASTofBURDENog t1_iteke67 wrote

Not oyf the flu was primed first... Hire a "chimney sweeper" Google how to prime a flu.... These two things will solve all problems. Chimney sweeping services are found in those little flyers in the mail with coupons. They may be busier this time of year.

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Unharmful_Truths t1_itgp2yy wrote

Just try dropping a live chicken down it. Remember to tie a nice rope around the chicken. The chicken will likely clear the blockage AND clean the chimney all at once.

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headwig123 t1_ite6if7 wrote

If chimney is clear my best guess is you need proper airflow. crack a window to create a draft for the first few logs.

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burnout524 t1_itejxtl wrote

This is the answer. I had a wood stove at my old house and if the stove piping and flue weren’t already warmed up, smoke would come back into the house rather than up the chimney. This usually happened this time of year when the stove wasn’t cranking 24/7.

Open the closest window or 2 to get additional air flow up the chimney will solve the issue.

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ZippytheKlown t1_ite85d5 wrote

You need to heat up the chimney…get your fire ready to go and then roll up some newspaper, light the end, and hold it near the flue…when it warms up you’ll see the flame start going up the flue…then light your fire with the paper and you should be good.

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite8lzn wrote

I also have a L shaped chimney that is 2 connected to 1 if that helps

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buried_lede t1_itfvwxg wrote

OK so you have a three-story tall chimney and it is angled. A little challenging I guess.

So definitely a good safety measure to have it serviced/inspected every year, also to have a cap on top to prevent animal nesting.

Then, with the length and the bend, I think some extra patience might be needed when the season begins to get that baby going

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greywarden207 t1_ite59l8 wrote

Your chimney might need to be cleaned. They do need to be cleaned periodically. I'm sure there's a company you could call if that's the case. We had them come every year when I was a kid.

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Double-Age-9158 t1_ite59ml wrote

Are you making sure the temp in and around the stove is at room temp? Like open the door and let the air inside the stove get to the same temp as the air outside the stove. After that, start with a small fire for a bit. Once that is going okay, put more wood in. Hope this helps.

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tilario t1_ite6eke wrote

can you post a picture of your fireplace, in particular the "vent thing" you're talking about.

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite784n wrote

If I find out how to. It’s the thing inside the chimney. I have to open before the fire is lit

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US-Freedom-81 t1_ite87cj wrote

OP, I am in the same situation as you. Brand new stove brand new piping brand new everything. The first few fires that I had in it the last week or so I’m struggling to get enough heat generated to create a draft so the smoke leaves the firebox. The issue is like the comment said is with a cold flu you’re not getting enough draft to push the smoke up. I noticed with mine that if I start with a lot more newspaper to get a good flame started, this gets the flu nice and warm so the smoke drafts out. I do like the comment and idea about leaving the door open and getting the inside of the box up to room temperature.

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phoebeandsunny t1_ite5i1y wrote

is your wood properly seasoned?

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite5wxp wrote

Idk what this means!

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US-Freedom-81 t1_ite8h6w wrote

Having properly seasoned wood is the most critical part of getting a good fire going. Knowing that your wood is seasoned can be done by understanding what the moisture content of the wood is. Buy a moisture meter off Amazon that has two metal prongs. you want your wood to be around 20% or less moisture

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite8vbv wrote

Okay will do thanks

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buried_lede t1_itfvius wrote

lol, in other words, it's old -not green wood that's freshly cut

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_itfyzy9 wrote

Well the wood I got wasn’t green and split very easily but idk how old it was

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Passion_Full t1_ite8yha wrote

You don't want to use fresh green wood (like recently chopped) it needs to be thoroughly dry throughout to ensure it will make a fire not smoke

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite9ag4 wrote

Man I screwed up then. Is there any way to fasten the drying? I spent a whole weekend chopping and cutting it up!

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Passion_Full t1_ite9ft3 wrote

Not that I'm aware of. Generally, we chop wood one year, store in a place to dry out, and the use that the following year. You can purchase small packs of seasoned wood as well.

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_itea1pl wrote

Dang okay. Thanks

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sweatydillpickle t1_item0e9 wrote

The fastest way to dry it is to stack it up as a ‘face cord’ so it’s only one stack deep. Make sure it’s ~6 inches off the ground and cover the top with a tarp that doesn’t overhang the sides by more than a foot. To speed drying you need to expose as much surface area to the breeze as possible and keeping a small tarp on top will keep rain off of it without blocking airflow. If the wood is sizzling in your fireplace it’s too wet. Over time you will learn the sound and weight of dry wood versus wet. We’re on our 5th year with a wood stove and im still learning. Try to stay about one year ahead on your wood supply.

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buried_lede t1_itfvmdc wrote

Yeah, store that for next year and buy some from a fire wood dealer who has dry (seasoned) wood

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SectorZed t1_itfzuct wrote

You can buy seasoned wood from places. We used to buy kiln dried wood and it lit up extremely fast.

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as1126 t1_ite7pzm wrote

Four seasons outside to dry and very little chance of moss or dampness. Do you buy wood or you have a stack outside?

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite8has wrote

I had a guy dump some huge branches/trunks in my yard and I chopped them up

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jjdiablo t1_itedawx wrote

There’s your problem right there. That wood has too much moisture, and will do nothing but hiss and make lots of smoke. Hold off and burn that wood in 12 months.

If you want to try a fire with the small wood bundles that gas stations sell, you will learn how easy it should be to light a fire. Those bundles are usually kiln dried so they can be burned immediately. Problem is they are like $6-$7 for a few pieces, usually too expensive if you will be burning a lot . But it will be good practice.

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as1126 t1_ite8l34 wrote

Burn them next year. This year, buy some. Keep it off the ground.

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Ordinary_Guitar_5074 t1_ite81x0 wrote

That’s too long. It’s going to start turning to pulp after the first year. I think wood is seasoned after one year.

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as1126 t1_ite8a2v wrote

So four seasons is not one year? What did I miss?

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gallowglass4 t1_ite63b7 wrote

Try cracking a window to create a draw up the chimney?

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phunky_1 t1_ite9e4d wrote

I would invest in a wood stove insert for your fireplace.

A fireplace actually makes your house colder. Where you might be able to heat the whole place with a wood stove insert.

It sounds like either your flue isn't opening properly or you have a blockage in the chimney.

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite9ydq wrote

I have a L shaped fireplace. 2 fireplaces connected. So idk how that would work

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phunky_1 t1_itehdyb wrote

I have never seen that.

You could probably still do an insert somehow.

A lot of people don't realize fireplaces make the house colder.

It makes other rooms cold, you also need to keep the flue open all night which let's cold air in.

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woodstove7 t1_ite9zyy wrote

No disrespect meant at all, but looking at some of your responses to what people have suggested show you’re at the beginning of your journey to wood burning. We’ve all been there. I know it seems really straight forward: wood + light it on fire = everyone enjoys. Unfortunately there are many variables. I’d recommend doing a bit of reading on the subject because there are so many pitfalls than can ruin your experience and lighting a fire in your home can seriously be fatal. Once you get going it can be great. But I’d suggest this : top down fire

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weaselpoopcoffee1 t1_itedkgv wrote

Make sure the wood you burn is seasoned as well. Don't burn green wood.

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elporkco t1_ite5jje wrote

Sounds like chimney is clogged. I would have it swept. Also it could be you are stating the fire to far forward. Move it back. But call a chimney sweep. Have it looked at.

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gardener2 t1_iten0bb wrote

I think a few people here already solved the mystery. The person is using green wood, says he had somebody drop some branches and logs in the yard recently and that's what he's using. The chimney was inspected last year but never used so it sounds like the issue is unseasoned wood. Got to wait a year to use it.

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MangosArentReal t1_itenvtq wrote

Besides what other people mentioned, you'll want to avoid burning wood from evergreens e.g. pine. They generate more creosote than hard woods and creosote can clog up the chimney and lead to chimney fires.

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govshutdown t1_iter4dj wrote

I see you saying you opened the “vent thing”, and people are assuming you mean the flue, but are you talking about a vent that opens on the side or top of the fireplace? For the flue there is usually a large lever/bar to push or pull that is inside and above the fireplace. Are you opening that?

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ApatheticAbsurdist t1_iteusbl wrote

  1. If this is a house you own and haven’t already it probably would be good to get a chimney inspection by a chimney sweep. The carbon and such from the fire will build up on the chimney overtime cutting the airflow and then there’s animals or things that could cause a blockage. If something blocks up the works it can cause smoke to get stuck in the house (if it gets bad it can lead to causing a fire inside the chimney which is not safe and potentially burn your house down… get an inspection)
  2. Is your flue open. There is usually a value called the flu that has a handle of some type to close it when you don’t have a fire going so cold air doesn’t leak into your house. (I assume this is what you mean by the ”vent thing” but if you mean the little vents at the bottom of the fireplace floor, that’s not it)
  3. When starting a fire it helps to get some heat going up the flue. If you’re using news paper to start the fire, I’d make a little torch of it first and light it and hold it up the flue for 10 seconds to heat up the air and start a draft pulling air up through the chimney. Then light the fire with the paper.
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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_itfysex wrote

2nd reply that said vents on the floor. I don’t have that is that the problem?

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ApatheticAbsurdist t1_itgrp2f wrote

No it’s not just wanted to make absolutely sure you got the flue. Some fancy fireplaces will have doors and vents under them to allow for control (let the fire get roaring or slow it down) since you said you’re not used to fire places just wanted to make sure you didn’t think that was the flue. (No offense to you, just covering all bases) the vents on the floor really aren’t needed unless you have solid (glass) doors in front of the fireplace.

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SectorZed t1_itf577p wrote

Sometimes you need to create an upward draft. Our wood stove is located near a window so we open the window. It helps get it started.

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SSoviet_Slayer t1_itg5pet wrote

Is your flue open, there is a handle inside your fireplace on the tip pull or push it to open close the flue

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acardy t1_itg6e7c wrote

If there is not blockage, Your chimney needs to be cleaned, probably.

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sld06003 t1_ite6afr wrote

It might not be anything you are doing wrong. The fireplace might not be constructed properly. My father in law had to install some sort of plate on top in front because the same thing was happening and it worked like a charm. Not sure what that piece is called though.

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite7396 wrote

Oooh can you find out? House was built in 1900

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sld06003 t1_itfl2fe wrote

From my father in law...

It is called a smoke guard. Mine has adjustable extensions so it fits most fireplaces around my size. Most fireplace dealers would know because it is a common problem. But if you go for that option, bring a photo and measurements. It may be the case that the metal frame front you have will make it difficult for an adjustable guard like mine to be really effective against escaping smoke. The ends of mine press against the side wall of the fireplace and the top presses against the underside of the bricks forming the inside top. If that seal is not tight you could still get smoke in the house. There may be other ways to seal it.

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Ordinary_Guitar_5074 t1_ite8s1t wrote

That fireplace might not be meant for a wood fire. In those days it was common to burn coal in a fireplace and the fireplace was constructed just for that purpose. They were very shallow fireplaces. Is your’s very shallow? I mean can a human fit inside if they crouched real small? If not it may just not be meant for burning wood.

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite97ds wrote

I thought it was a little shallow but it’s not deep like the huge houses on tv. But a fire log rack? Fits in there

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Ordinary_Guitar_5074 t1_ite9dhh wrote

Yeah. But just barely right?

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite9u3j wrote

No a good 4 inches on both ends and 2 front and back? Idk if that is barely?

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Ordinary_Guitar_5074 t1_itea4h2 wrote

Yeah. I think you may have a coal fireplace. Good news and bad news in this article. But my guess is that it wasn’t designed for the size fore you are trying to use it for and so the chimney is simply overwhelmed.

https://www.victorianfireplaceshop.com/can-you-burn-wood-in-a-coal-fireplace

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gregra193 t1_ite9dap wrote

Have you had a chimney inspection/cleaning?

Be aware they may try to sell you a chimney liner or suggest brick Re-pointing which you may or may not need.

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_ite9qt3 wrote

Last year, but did not use chimney, how would you know if you need or do not need those re-pointing or liners?

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RedditZhangHao t1_itiowmm wrote

Depending on the sweep and specific fees charged, some inspections include an interior chimney video. No guarantee a less than ethical sweep may not BS you, come up with issues which may not exist, etc. However, an ethical sweep with good reviews and in business for an extended period may prove reliable, limit potential risks, etc.

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Thats-wht-she-said t1_itejubg wrote

I used to have the same problem with smoke backing up into the house. You have to establish draft first - hot air rises, cold air falls. I would use a small propane heater or torch to establish draft, then get everything lit. No problems after that. Smoke went straight up the chimney and none in the house.

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Nomegustaestenombre t1_iteklvk wrote

Running a fan, especially a ceiling fan in the room of the fire place could draw the smoke out the fire place and into the room.

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blondeambition39 t1_itelaak wrote

Not sure where you live but I had an amazing experience with Ashes Away in Middlebury. They cleaned and inspected my chimney (way cheaper than anyone else) and he went up and checked the crown and flue tiles and took pictures so that I could see what was happening. He ended up having to replace the crown and flue tiles and add a chimney cap. He explained every single step and why it was needed, and I ended up hiring him to install my wood stove.

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I_Am_Penguini t1_iteolgk wrote

Everything about verifying your chimney is completely correct.

After that, you need to learn that a fire place will waste a ton of energy and make the rest of your house cold.

I added ventless gas logs.

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LookingM4FnearUCONN OP t1_itfyn1t wrote

Will have to look into that

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I_Am_Penguini t1_itg0zvm wrote

It was late when I commented last night. A fireplace takes a lot of air to operate safely. The chimney effect drawers the Air up the chimney.

Guess where the air comes from? It draws from inside your house which draws air from outside. The little area by my fire was warm but the rest of the house was freezing.

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ManNomad t1_itf1wh8 wrote

I always have to warm up my wood stove before starting a fire otherwise my draft reverses and chokes out my house. The best way I check to know I'm good to light the fire is to hold a lit lighter near the stove door, if the flame moves in toward the fire I'm good. If the flame is pointing in toward the room, it needs more time heating up.

For now my best way is to use a small space heater inside my stove to get the draft moving where I want it go. With a wood stove I can easily feel draft direction, so Im not sure this would work on a regular fireplace but I dont see why it couldnt show you the draft. Even using a blown out match and watch where the smoke goes

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Unharmful_Truths t1_itgp82d wrote

Also, Dude, having fires inside is awesome and when you get it done and dusted you will have a flipping BLAST. So enjoy it.

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MongooseProXC t1_itgts7l wrote

Open a window first. Light a piece of newspaper up the chimney until you notice the smoke go up. Once it does, you have a draft and can light your fire.

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