Submitted by ransuru t3_yj7tv7 in BuyItForLife
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khaaanquest t1_iumlpoz wrote
Huh, never knew that electrician scissors were a thing, nor that people would have strong opinions on scissors. What's the benefit of this type of scissors to electricians?
fazalmajid t1_iumuen7 wrote
Very tough stubby blades meant to cut copper wire. The Olfa ones posted by OP are not true electrician’s scissors like these:
https://www.kleintools.com/catalog/electricians-scissors/electricians-scissors-nickel-plated
Metahec t1_iun28n8 wrote
I don't think I've ever wanted a pair of scissors more in my life
fazalmajid t1_iun341n wrote
Try these instead:
https://www.whiteley.co.uk/store/diy/wilkinson-black-electricians-snips/
poopsididitagen t1_iunzsxq wrote
Are they that much better? Worth the upgrade from my Klein snips?
dirtycimments t1_iuoc303 wrote
Honestly, just the reason they don't have them without that black coating makes me say no-no.
I'd say those kleins look better.
ember13140 t1_iuolzyv wrote
Powder coatings always look like crap the first time you look at them. Also it's easier to lose.
fazalmajid t1_iupdudw wrote
They're not powder-coated, it's Teflon to prevent the blades from getting fouled by adhesives, only the cutting edge is exposed.
I'd say both are durable (I have both, though I tend to use the Klein more), but Whiteley makes industrial scissors as well, including ones designed to cut Kevlar, so they have some expertise making tools for highly technical and demanding jobs.
Xearoii t1_iuqdl05 wrote
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clickclickbb t1_iupk361 wrote
I dropped a brand new pair while on a scissor lift and they broke into about 4 pieces.
I get the stainless steel version of the Klein's now. They seem to stay sharper longer and they don't rust.
Central_Incisor t1_iun71vu wrote
Sadly I have never found the "file" on the back useful. I have a pair without the wire strippers and they were wonderful when cutting shielding for wires. If I had to use them all day I would probably look at the All-purpose version as it allows different grips like resting the large loop in your palm as you cut.
friendlyfire883 t1_iupao8s wrote
It's not a file it's a comb for straightening datacom cables to make them easier to terminate. The notches are the exact width of a rj45/rj11 connector.
Central_Incisor t1_iupdd28 wrote
Just so that we are talking about the same scissors this is the electrician's scissors I have. It makes no mention of a comb and specifically refers to the outside edges as having a scraper/file.
friendlyfire883 t1_iupe7hg wrote
That's wild, I don't think you could file much of anything with those scissors. I was taught to use then to comb cat 6 10 years ago and I've been doing it ever since.
Central_Incisor t1_iupf5dj wrote
My understanding is that they were to round off any burrs from power box knock out holes. More like burnishing and deburring than removing large amounts of metal. Hell, it's cool you found a good use for it!
clickclickbb t1_iupmb7f wrote
I couldn't get used to the yellow handled snips. That long bit on the one side just felt awkward even though I use my palm to cut cables and it felt really weird to use it like a normal pair if scissors (like if I'm cutting paper). The worst part about them is that they are way out of balance and I can't do my cool scissor spin into pocket move that all us low voltage guys look really cool doing.
Lv_InSaNe_vL t1_iuremw7 wrote
See I disagree I think the yellow handled one's a much more comfortable to use. But yeah personal choice and all that
clickclickbb t1_iurolgf wrote
I just think I've been doing this for too long and they weren't solving a problem or made things easier for me so I didn't give them a real try. I also didn't know where to put them when I wasn't cutting anything. I usually put my snips in either that useless coin pocket jeans have or in a belt loop and the longer handled ones don't balance right there and would fall out.
Definetely a personal preference thing here.
Lv_InSaNe_vL t1_iurpztp wrote
I'd either just throw them into my back pocket with my screw drivers or into the coin pocket.
But I almost always have my tool pouch so I usually just put them in there.
Veronica-goes-feral t1_iuool5k wrote
I think my holy grail would be the Klein snips with the Southwire handles and lock.
fazalmajid t1_iun9t7n wrote
> Sadly I have never found the "file" on the back useful.
No, nor the wire stripping notches.
Umbroboner t1_iunghew wrote
I've actually used them numerous times. Comes in handy when you dont have your strippers nearby..
poopsididitagen t1_iunzwjl wrote
They actually work really well
fazalmajid t1_iupd3oh wrote
I have a European-style Knipex stripping gun that is incredibly reliable and won't nick the wires. Well worth investing in.
Kevolved t1_iuoduf1 wrote
I'd use the file to ream some pipe in a pinch, but data guys don't usually run pipe around my area.
Veronica-goes-feral t1_iuoofgm wrote
That’s what your channies are for…
PowerandSignal t1_iuo5lkc wrote
This. You hold them differently too, so the handles are fine. Ring finger through one side, other side sits in your palm.
tambor333 t1_iuny2u2 wrote
I have a set of these for my car, my drawer of helpfulness (junk drawer), and one for my shop. They are super handy.
FastRedPonyCar t1_iuoskbv wrote
I have these but they make them with yellow rubber coated handles. 10/10. Would cut another 500 cat6 cables with again.
nuffced t1_iuoc2ii wrote
Jensen makes a similar pair. No plastic for me thank you.
LiftsEatsSleeps t1_iupoz1p wrote
I have a pair of those in my tech bag, use them a ton when running new Ethernet drops.
DavidNipondeCarlos t1_iuq85qx wrote
Cutco cuts copper Pennie’s and choking bones.
metavektor t1_iuqp8av wrote
Hmmm, why wouldn't you use pliers for that? So you can snip at the end of the blade?
I love my pliers with gaged stripper sections, am trying to figure out why I'd want scissors as well. Not a professional so this is probably obvious to some others
93OctaneGrass t1_iur0lif wrote
I have several pairs and of the klein electrician scissors. You can abuse the shit out of these and they still cut well.
evlsk8er t1_iup5021 wrote
Nah the ones with the one yellow handle are the way to go.
PresidentSuperDog t1_iumpew3 wrote
People can have strong opinions about anything no matter how inconsequential it seems to other people.
I moderately offended someone last week because I thought their ketchup preference was mediocre.
While I don’t have a scissor preference, I can understand why someone that uses them regularly would. Using a well made tool just feels better.
RevRob330 t1_iumxpnu wrote
PresidentSuperDog t1_iundhy7 wrote
I will never have an original thought, not that I thought this one was. But to have a cartoon already existing of my thought is somewhat disheartening. There is probably also a cartoon describing this feeling as well.
RevRob330 t1_iunip2z wrote
PresidentSuperDog t1_iunkj4c wrote
Walked right into that one.
RevRob330 t1_iunkz8i wrote
Actually, that was a fan made version, but the spirit is correct.
Think of it as great minds think alike.
penlowe t1_iump8u5 wrote
Clearly you don’t know anyone who sews, or at least haven’t been in their sewing space ;)
fazalmajid t1_iumuj4h wrote
Or tried to use their fabric scissors to cut paper…
hexiron t1_iun03to wrote
Straight to jail
FreakyManBaby t1_iun08ec wrote
offer: use my mother's kitchen scissors for something not kitchen related. receive: a woman's wrath.
y/n?
HalfysReddit t1_iuoj245 wrote
The main thing is that instead of it being two blades with straight edges that "cut" something, it has two thicker blades with at least one of them being serrated. This in effect means the scissors "chew" through material instead of cutting it.
This means they're much better for cutting heavier things, like copper wire or sheet metal.
That being said, if you don't need to cut strands of copper wire on a regular basis, I might actually recommend gardening shears for most people's uses. They "cut" like traditional scissors, but have one flat and dull blade, and the handles are designed to give you mechanical advantage so you can cut fairly thick things like small tree branches. You can use them to cut anything you'd use electrician's scissors for, they just might not give you the clean edge on the copper wires for a very long time like you'd expect if you were an electrician doing that a lot with electrician's scissors. They're also just about as good as cutting sheet metal as tin snips are, while being much more versatile. Again, if you're not cutting sheet metal on a regular basis, you probably don't need a tool that's designed specifically for cutting sheet metal.
I wouldn't call myself a scissor snob but I do a lot of DIY things, my career is in technology, and I do a lot of camping. So I own at least like a dozen pairs of scissors and have used a bunch of other hand-held cutting tools.
Keylime29 t1_iup1skq wrote
Thanks for the tip
khaaanquest t1_iupbi37 wrote
THIS is exactly the answer I needed. Thanks!
guitarlisa t1_iunbomt wrote
I worked as an electrician's helper for quite a bit and I never once used or wanted a pair of scissors. I can't figure out what these are for. Maybe they are for cutting wire or stripping it? I use wirecutters and Kleins, but I would never trade them for these.
FreakyManBaby t1_iunvafb wrote
after using a good set of scissors for wires and cable and even guitar strings my brother will never go back to dykes
Kevolved t1_iuoe70c wrote
Electricians don't usually use the scissors. More of a teldata guy thing.
The scissors are for like cat 6 cables, much thinner than what you were probably using.
guitarlisa t1_iuonckr wrote
Ah, that makes sense. Cool.
tambor333 t1_iunypyj wrote
As someone that used to wire data centers, these were indispensable for making cat 5/ 6 UTP cables, of which I made 10's of thousands over the years.
Lv_InSaNe_vL t1_iureyzv wrote
Haha I moved from a cable monkey to a "normal" office IT position and I love impressing people by doing a full termination in like 30 seconds.
They're always like "how do you do that??", well I spent like 2 years doing almost nothing but that haha
Sith_Lord_Jacob t1_iuq5wbi wrote
Cutting flat copper for wrapping leads. More common in industrial work
Central_Incisor t1_iuygqrg wrote
I had to cut polyester fabric with copper wrap around interference shielding and scissors were the best way to get a quick clean cut. If you already have the tool in hand, you'll use it for cutting wire too.
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ToIA t1_iuong4x wrote
I'm an electrician and have never used these in my life. Have seen quite a few low voltage guys with them on their tool belts, but never a sparky.
friendlyfire883 t1_iupa19c wrote
Some people try to use them to take the place of several tools in their kit, the only thing I've found them useful for is datacom splices personally.
Luddites_Unite t1_iuoncai wrote
There is no benefit. No electrician I've ever met or heard of uses a pair or scissors to cut wire, that's what linesman pliers are for, or diagonal cutters, or even wire strippers.
clickclickbb t1_iupnm2m wrote
Scissors aren't good for cutting house wire but they are better than Klein's or diagonals for cutting control wire, cat 6 data cable, and string. Whenever the electricians in my company get slow and they come help us pull the low voltage stuff they usually show up with scissors after a few days. I can understand not wanting to carry extra tools but snips definitely have a benefit in many situations.
fazalmajid t1_iumgfo2 wrote
My Olfas have more sensible handles:
https://blog.majid.info/galleries/scissors/#&gid=1&pid=11
That said no plastic-handled anything is going to be BIFL like traditional drop-forged styles with high-chrome and nickel steel.
I find the micro-serrated blades objectionable. They have their uses in dismantling packages, which is what I mostly use them for, not for anything requiring precision.
F-21 t1_iumplgq wrote
> That said no plastic-handled anything is going to be BIFL like traditional drop-forged styles with high-chrome and nickel steel.
Plastic can be ridiculously durable if it's theright type. In consumer products plastic is most common due to cost, not quality, but high end plastics can be on a totally different level.
Like for example, traditional excavators use bronze bushings, but modern engineered plastic bushings withstand abuse for a lot longer without extra lube... And in those conditions you can have extreme forces and temperatures besides moisture or just downright being submerged...
Walkop t1_iunosy2 wrote
UHMW. The blade for a typical commercial hand-use snowpusher is UHMW; the BLADE costs $20-30. In material. For the factory.
But I've used one for three years and it's barely seen any wear on over a dozen driveways per snowfall. Many hundreds of clears. It's low-friction, grabs the snow well, and BARELY wears. The metal bolts and thick plastic frame are going before the blade sees more than surface wear.
tjeick t1_iunu9we wrote
Tell me more. Where can a regular dude get a snow pusher like this?
Walkop t1_iunzwgf wrote
The blade is white plastic. You can find them at some hardware stores. They're not always labelled UHMW, but decently thick opaque white plastic is a dead giveaway. They're snow pushers, not shovels; the geometry isn't great for lifting, but pushing to the sides is 2-3x faster and easier than any shovel and if the snow isn't heavy it's easy to lift as well.
Ice rinks and hockey games use them to clear snow on the ice because they're the best tool for the job.
Cost is $40-$80USD for a pusher.
SixthKing t1_iumky79 wrote
I have a pair of these. They’re amongst the best scissors I’ve used. I just have to remember about the serrated edge on the one side when I’m using them on a workpiece.
I’m also an Olfa fanboy. Gotta show love to the tribe.
penlowe t1_iumpo3w wrote
Yeah those look like nice all purpose household scissors, chop up the junk mail, open boxes, don’t loose them because bright yellow handles. :)
fazalmajid t1_iumu5gr wrote
Exactly. Mine live at the entrance door along with the Olfa box cutters.
ponyboy3 t1_iuo0jel wrote
Those still look very uncomfortable
dirtycimments t1_iuodjtp wrote
What a fascinating moment i spent going through those! Thanks for sharing!
ransuru OP t1_iumfhng wrote
Post s link please
penlowe t1_iumq393 wrote
rebelipar t1_iuoqccc wrote
Ah, "Heinkles" super confused me, but Henckels makes much more sense, lol. I do need poultry shears, so this is helpful!
obmasztirf t1_iun90ub wrote
Love a good pair of kitchen shears. Picked this up years back from my fave knife shop(Bernal Cutlery):
https://www.tigerchef.com/fdick-9008221-8andquot-stainless.html
ShellSide t1_iummj7h wrote
Any recs for left handed scissors?
penlowe t1_iump4fy wrote
All the really good brands make lefties, it’s just a matter of digging them up on the websites/ better quilting shops. My brother is a leftie and decades ago I gave him a set of Heinkles paper scissors. Still used them.
RedSh1r7 t1_iumpg4e wrote
Be like every other lefty and learn how to use right handed scissors.
Source: I'm sinister.
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Appropriate_Meal_842 t1_iumyzh7 wrote
Have you tried Klein electrician scissors?
spei180 t1_iunma0z wrote
I am only aware of Fiskers through my grandma and her quilting. She bought me so from fabric. I am happy to learn more! I am very very much over random ikea ones I have for everything other than fabric.
ohhellperhaps t1_iuqxzra wrote
When I was 12 or so, my parent bought me one of those orange handled Fiskars scissors (model needlework scissors) for hobby and school use. I’ve used and seriously abused (thin metal, wires, anything really) that pair, and it’s still used often, 35 years later.
probably_a_raccoon t1_iunzfr9 wrote
Well thanks for unlocking a new hyper fixation. I now need to own elite scissors.
khitsule t1_iuo2lwd wrote
>I use Olfa blades in a Fiskars handle for the same reason,
Geez I do the reverse. Got an olfa cutter and it started skipping threads pretty much immediately, had to replace the blades after each use to keep getting clean cuts. Swapped to fiskars blades and never had an issue since
FortWendy69 t1_iuo5l0n wrote
This guy cuts
DeadLeftovers t1_iuonsnd wrote
These remind me of the cute little scissors that fold up
Walusqueegee t1_iuparhu wrote
We’ve had the same pair of Henckels for over 20 years! They work great still.
Asapara t1_iuq07o7 wrote
What are your favorite fabric shears? I'm currently using a rotary cutter but I've been contemplating getting a good pair of scissors but I don't really know where to start.
penlowe t1_iuquewg wrote
Henckles 10" shears. I gave a link a few posts down, not outrageous in price considering. My shears are 20 years and counting, my embroidery snips are 40 years & counting.
DogoArgento t1_iur01ri wrote
You seem like a connoisseur. What would you recommend for cutting a lot of intricated shapes on cereal box's cardboard? I do papercraft and I always get a blister on my thumb when cutting. I'm in Europe.
penlowe t1_iur7cmm wrote
Most ‘craft’ scissors have dreadful handles, but a good sharp pair that fit your hand nicely will make a huge difference. Try as many as you can, a fabric store often has some packaged in such a way that you can actually put your hand in them.
Cutting cardboard, just know that you’ll have to sharpen them frequently. Look for ones with an adjusting screw at the hinge, not a rivet. This means they can be tightened after sharpening. Riveted scissors only have 3-4 sharpenings in them, then the blades don’t meet properly anymore.
You can also look to quilting rulers and utility knives with a good cutting mat underneath for the bigger cuts. Those blades are cheaper and easier to replace.
DogoArgento t1_iurbonw wrote
Thank you.
blindgoblin t1_iumeocl wrote
My BiFL scissors are Clauss 925 5” electrician scissors. Have mine for 25 years and are still dangerously sharp.
fazalmajid t1_iumgb6v wrote
I think that model is discontinued though. Clauss has sadly shifted a lot of production to China.
ransuru OP t1_iumfb5d wrote
Are the stainless?
blindgoblin t1_iumfw1f wrote
Don’t believe so. Web site says double plated chrome over nickel.
Alt_dimension_visitr t1_iumk32k wrote
So better than stainless
F-21 t1_iumpsp5 wrote
Not if rust makes them useless :)
Modern high end stainless steels can be better than some cheaper carbon steels.
Alt_dimension_visitr t1_iun3vf2 wrote
But it's not carbon steel. Chrome and nickel both don't rust
F-21 t1_iunj066 wrote
Not sure what you're talking about, but carbon steel is overall the name that only signifies steel which is not stainless steel. Carbon steel can have many alloying elements such as chrome, nickel and others (copper, manganese, molbydenium, vanadium...) and depending on which standard definition you look at, stainless steels are also carbon steels. But in general when people talk about carbon and stainless steel, the term carbon is used to tell you that the steel in question rusts.
Alt_dimension_visitr t1_iunnxfy wrote
Ok unidan
LEGITIMATE_SOURCE t1_iuogbzp wrote
Crows and jackdaws over here...
barchueetadonai t1_iuq48oq wrote
Uh pretty sure “carbon steel” typically refers to steels with a carbon content higher than low-carbon steel, but less than cast iron
F-21 t1_iuqa7va wrote
As per wikipedia:
> The term carbon steel may also be used in reference to steel which is not stainless steel;
And if you want to talk about carbon content, standard separates it further:
>Carbon steel is broken down into four classes based on carbon content:
>low-carbon steel
> medium-carbon steel
> high-carbon steel
> ultra-high-carbon steel
So while you might mean steels other than low carbon steel when you say it and it's how you understand it, that is too broad of a name to define specific steel in the American standards for steel (SAE, AISI). Carbon steel is any steel with between 0.05% of carbon up to 2.1% of carbon content, so that name includes everything from low carbon steel to ultra high carbon steel..
Edit: and some stainless steel types can be right on that 0.05% limit, but most commonly they're under it. That is why carbon steel is used to differentiate steel which rusts from stainless steel.
I see lots of people downvoted my previous comment, so clearly there's a lot of confusion regarding this and people throw the name carbon steel on whatever suits them in their context.
GizatiStudio t1_iumfplj wrote
Love my Kai so I made an alligator sheath for them. I use scissors daily and these are by far the best I’ve owned.
batcake42 t1_iumpa39 wrote
Drove by the KAI oyana factory north of Nagoya many years ago and my Japanese uncle was so confused why I was freaking out over a scissor or blade company lmao
hotassnuts t1_iumgkxr wrote
I've purchased 3 pair and give them as Christmas gifts. They rule.
florida_woman t1_iuml65b wrote
I’ve given their nail clippers as gifts to family members. They are amazing.
sunrayevening t1_iupprb5 wrote
Kai Scissors are the best. It is the same company as Shun knives.
mets2016 t1_ivd6c2y wrote
Is that the same brand as KAI razor blades?
YippieKiAy t1_iun6u29 wrote
Holy shit I've spent a lot of the morning browsing different types of scissors I never even knew about.
Wags7121 t1_iun87ql wrote
Klein scissors ftw. They ever dull or break just take them back to home Depot for a no questions asked warranty replacement.
Xenoone79 t1_iuno6fg wrote
This guy cables
TheRealDuHass t1_iupevwm wrote
Going on ten years with my Kleins, love em.
hoffyyyy t1_iupplt7 wrote
You can cut dimes with those suckers and still cut wire lol
cfowler42 t1_iuml6as wrote
What is dull may never die
Plethora_of_squids t1_iunlbw7 wrote
Man I love how everyone here has all these super nice scissors and yet for some damn reason my 'buy it for life' scissors are a pair of overengineered kids scissors that are bright pink and a bit too small for me that I pinched off my sister in middle school and am still using today at uni age. Behold - the Okut kids scissors. Ten(?) years old with frequent use and they're still sharp enough to slice your finger (which is...worrying for a pair of safety scissors) and solid enough to withstand an awful lot. And they're ambidextrous. Give 'em to your kid and they'll still be using them when they're an adult. If they have small hands.
RedHairThunderWonder t1_iun5xzq wrote
These babies can cut through an entire electrician in 8.4 seconds.
takeoff_power_set t1_iumoodx wrote
Olfa is a great BIFL brand. Have never had a problem with any of their tools, and they make a bunch - box cutters, rotary cutters (Looks like a pizza cutter), paper cutters, all kinds of stuff.
As long as it's made in Japan it's all good stuff and it's the same thing the JP domestic market consumes. Japan is notoriously fussy about quality stationery items so the bar is kept quite high.
F-21 t1_iumq779 wrote
Olfa is a traditional japanese manufacturer, capitalism is of course important but I guess they also take a certain pride in their products and it shows. They go the extra mile and make stuff that's not just reliable but often also easy to service and maintain.
theduderip t1_iunszrt wrote
I love my ginghers. I never see them on here- are there horror stories/bad experiences with Ginghers that I should be aware of?
fazalmajid t1_iuo0tb5 wrote
Ginghers are still the benchmark for sewing scissors in the US, but they were bought out by Fiskars, production was shifted, and Kai has been giving them tough competition.
sunrayevening t1_iuppwmi wrote
Gingers are excellent but I prefer my Kai scissors.
theduderip t1_iuprxae wrote
Well damn, I guess I live under a fucking rock.
I’ve never heard of Kai scissors!
Are there any particular differences between the brand that stand out? Or is it just personal preference for you? I’m very curious now 👀
RLSchatze t1_iuranh3 wrote
I also vastly prefer my Kai scissors to my Gingers. I sew so I have gotten three Ginger sizes over the years. Even with careful care and only being used by me for sewing, they are starting to deteriorate. The nut that hold the two scissor blades together isn't holding as well so they don't quite meet properly on my biggest pair. My biggest pair also really hurts my hands after a little while. I have a small pair of curved ones and they also have the same problem. My medium size is still going alright. My husband is great with sharpening so they are still really sharp but it is hard to cut fabric neatly because of the nut problem.
My husband got me a set of Kai's for Christmas two years ago and they are vastly better. They feel so incredibly smooth and cut through anything. Even the largest pair doesn't hurt my hands even after lots of cutting. These are my favorite ever sewing scissors. They still are like brand new after two years.
I still have the Gingers but I don't use them at all now. I guess it is time to declutter. :)
That being said, I also have a pair of Klein's that I purchased for general use around the house. My kids are big into all sorts of crafts and they also love them. I love them so much as well for general use and paper cutting. I got the blue handled one in a smaller size. Lowes has them one their website.
sunrayevening t1_iusu0zm wrote
They feel different. They are comfortable and the blades stay sharp a long time. I knicked one when I stupidly cut a metal zipper and took it to the knife sharpener and they are great now.
theduderip t1_iutwzq1 wrote
Thanks! I’m going to have to look into it!
Coeliac t1_iumkxva wrote
I'd argue for https://www.ernestwright.co.uk/collection/
fazalmajid t1_iumt9vt wrote
William Whiteley's Wilkinsons are better and have a longer pedigree.
ElijahLynn t1_iunt0pg wrote
These look really nice too, no plastic handles! Definitely look like BIFL too! Gonna get a pair of these too!
graywoman7 t1_iumro8j wrote
I own a couple pairs of these and while they’re amazing quality and will last forever they’re fussy and need frequent adjustments and oiling of the joint. The kitchen shears are good as an all purpose pair (I think they’re called turnton) but unless you’re going to be very careful with them the rest are really only for careful use for sewing and tailoring.
ElijahLynn t1_iunsrv9 wrote
OOOoh, those look nice! No plastic handles either, they definitely look like BIFL scissors! Thanks for the link, a pair of these is on my list now!
KCbrookside t1_iup06r5 wrote
I can’t believe I had to scroll this far down to find these.
kangsterizer t1_iunr0p8 wrote
IMO the real "BIFL" part of scissors is .. having a diamond sharpening stone and using it. I see people throwing away scissors when they no longer cut, but most scissors we buy pretty much last for life and sharpening them is much easier than a knife (you just need to grind one side of each blade)
ElijahLynn t1_iunt9m1 wrote
Truth. Imma get one of these pairs of scissors (not the OP though, but some in the comments) and use by BIFL Edge Pro Sharpener on them for true BIFL scissors!
kangsterizer t1_iunzrv7 wrote
haha yeah :)
To be fair, I do have an edge pro and i don't use that on scissors, i only use it to restore completely destroyed edges or reprofile knifes. for scissors i find the stone much easier and faster (also to touch up knifes but i'd understand if someone doesn't wanna go through that process - scissors on the other hand are really simple).
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If that inspires you my favorite diamond stones are the ones from spyderco (you really just need this one https://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Bench-Sharpener-Storage-Medium/dp/B0012QUE7U - though it definitely goes on sale for less) but for all around stuff you can't beat the workbench field one (https://www.amazon.com/Work-Sharp-Guided-Field-Sharpener/dp/B009YKHZ96) as its more versatile for the price, its just smaller which is a bit annoying for scissors.
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Theres a million YT videos on how to sharpen scissors but the TLDR is just grind the side of the blade with an angle like 10-15 times on that stone, flat, and that's it. they dont even need to be deburred for most intents and purposes (though you can, if you want, of course)
ElijahLynn t1_iuobtvy wrote
That is good to know, I was thinking of getting the scissors attachment for the edge pro but if I don't have to do both sides, then maybe one of the edge pro stones would be plenty fine too.
kangsterizer t1_iup3i5w wrote
to be honest you can get away with just using one of the edge pro stones directly on a flat surface but like the worksharp bench/field thingie its pretty small so i find the larger stones more convenient.
if you want the scissors to be razor sharp you can always use the attachment and so on, but scissors don't really need to be razor sharp to cut extremely well
afvcommander t1_iuqey4c wrote
Depends of design of scissors. If they have thick blades and self sharpening design it really isn't needed. I have 4 pairs older than 20 years, never sharpened and all cut everyday stuff without any problems, paper, fabric etc.
kangsterizer t1_iusm6dl wrote
i must have been using the "self sharpening" ones wrong for decades because they always eventually end up dull.. if you think about how its designed its logical - its better, yes, but magical, no.
I think these last a while for the typical household mind you, and so do the average knife - but if you use them daily they go bad within a few month, then you sharpen them and they're good for a few month again. cutting some materials like aluminum will actually help keeping them sharp enough, too (but fabric nope)
afvcommander t1_iuthdsb wrote
When talking about BIFL, I think it is reasonably to talk about normal household use. There really is not anything BIFL for professional use unless we are talking items like crowbar.
I still think that normal user does not need to learn scissor sharpening if they just buy OK pair like made in finland series fiskars.
kangsterizer t1_iuu0bzk wrote
BIFL are items we don't use, got it!
Jokes apart, I don't think any pair of scissors will last an actual lifetime (50-80 years) without sharpening unless you really use them only once a year. Basically, I think you're wrong, and that's OK, disagreeing is a thing.
With that said as well, there's plenty of things I personally thought lasted a long time (years and years) until I realized that indeed, people using them every other day or so would have them last a year or two. Scissors are definitely like that. For the record I only have fiscars myself (great mix of value, features, durability) and sharpen them +- once a year, sometimes maybe twice and use them maybe 2-3x a week for household tasks and thus they will last me probably forever (its been 20 years already) - but I figure many use them more like 2-3x a year.
I also have a pair of "shears" (as in medical shears), these don't need sharpening as often though I like to keep them sharp because they'll cut anything even when dull but its just a lot easier when they're really sharp (these cut fabric like jeans and stuff obviously).
el_engineero t1_iumh05u wrote
Everyone loves the Acclaimed
kjarmund t1_iund8g0 wrote
I rarely use scissors, so any brand will do it for me. But Olfa box cutters are excellent - I am very picky when it comes to box cutter knives, as I use them for stripping wires, and no other knife comes even close to my Olfa.
ransuru OP t1_iunf7gt wrote
I was thinking about getting an Olfa box cutters. I will add this to my next tool purchase.
kjarmund t1_iungh1z wrote
Depends on your preference, but the details that are a MUST for me:
- blade can be extended with one hand. No wheel lock type.
- that wedge-like thing at the back of the handle. It has a million uses.
This is the model I stick to: https://olfa.com/collections/professional/products/18mm-la-x-fiberglass-utility-knife
The 23mm variabt is also nice, but 18mm is enough for me.
smellycoat t1_iup7k7w wrote
https://www.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/products/knife-set-2pc-1600A016BM
These are great. The folding one on the right, I mean. I find the fixed blade more practical for bigger knives that you’re likely to be putting some force into. It’s perfectly rigid with no rattle while it’s open, and the flippy bit is loose enough that you can flick it open if you hold down the red button, making it incredibly satisfying to use.
Olfa make some awesome small craft knives with retractable blades though, my favourite is their stainless steel 30 degree blade. I like the long blade in the smaller light duty form factor, I use the full length a lot for scraping and long sweeping cuts.
friendlyfire883 t1_iup9u5m wrote
Those aren't actually splicing scissors and they certainly don't last forever, atleast not in an industrial setting. I've tried a dozen brands over the last few years abs I've pretty well determined the best electrician scissors are a good pair of side cutters, flush cutters, and hobby knives.
I'm sure if you just used them as regular scissors they'd be fine for a long time, but I can't find a pair that can hold up.
justbaconplease t1_iuq015o wrote
Sooo electrician for about ten years here and progressed into more controls and automation and have NEVER had a pair of scissors. Am I the only one?
longboarder116 t1_iummf52 wrote
I bought all metal fiskars scissors because they are great and will last forever, and if they don't Fiskars/Gerber has a great warranty
theQuandary t1_iuq5nma wrote
Fiskars used to make an incredible pair of electricians scissors (9485 7097). By far the most comfortable I’ve ever used. Too bad.
notathrowawayoris t1_iuqpir3 wrote
I’ve had my Fiskars electricians scissors for 20+ years now. When I got them all of the “Klein” guys made fun of my orange handled scissors but to this day I can still easily tell which are mine.
Casual-gamer t1_iun71m3 wrote
How do these compare to medical scissors(the kind paramedics cut people out of shit with)? I received some some as a congratulations for finishing an EMT class. Others were cutting pennies and quarters for shits and giggles, though I've had mine for the better part of a decade and they've barely dulled with normal use.
fazalmajid t1_iuo08nl wrote
EMT shears are meant to cut fabrics and tough seat belt webbing (although most EMTs will use a cutting hook on the latter). They usually have an offset blade with an angle to make cutting easier.
Electricians' scissors have short, stout blades meant to cut through reasonably thick copper wire, so they are made of harder metal and have thicker blades to resist chipping and damage.
Theplaidiator t1_iunan5w wrote
Old textile scissors are built for a life of use, I have a disston pair from the flea market for like $3 that will likely outlive me
trbettum t1_iunfwab wrote
But how do you get people not to “take without asking” your good scissors?
RLSchatze t1_iurccqo wrote
My nice Kai sewing scissors are in my sewing closet. All my children know they are not to touch them or get into my closet without asking. They are allowed to use them when we are sewing something together under my supervision.
I think part of it is having scissors that they can use too for their creative pursuits. We have a pair nice scissors for them (Klein) ones to use for paper in the office supplies drawers. We also have some cheap ones for use for more "creative" materials (foil, cardboard, etc.) My four year old has her own pair of little scissors. My children can feel the difference in the nice Klein ones and see how if they take care of them they last. I just got the less expensive blue plastic Klein ones from the Lowes website. They are so lovely to use.
Luddites_Unite t1_iuomz67 wrote
I am a journey person electrician and I can honestly say I've never seen a pair of electricians scissors and don't know what you would ever use them for.
clickclickbb t1_iupok43 wrote
They are more for low voltage electricians. They are for cutting data cable and string among other uses.
TheMightyBagel t1_iuq8hug wrote
Same! Thought I was crazy until I saw what size wire they can cut. The highest one was like 14awg.
KiloDelta9 t1_iuoyhu0 wrote
My Leatherman Raptor Trauma Sheers replaced my electrician scissors years ago. Still good as new!
Snoo75302 t1_iupctls wrote
I got a pair of dressmakeing scissors from a thrift shop. There ment 100% metal. Its good hard steel thats been chromed
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TheSeagoats t1_iumpttn wrote
What makes these great? They don’t look super comfortable but if they’re worth it then I’m definitely looking into them.
F-21 t1_iumtj3z wrote
These are the SCS-3. I think the SCS-1 and SCS-2 are much better - more comfortable and beefier.
Otherwise, I don't think they're anything extra special, they just do what you'd expect them to do. No gimmicks. Olfa is that kind of a brand...
616659 t1_iumv3c4 wrote
what even is electrician scissors, do you cut wires with it?
GoldenMonkeyRedux t1_iumwrx0 wrote
Yea
DuckAHolics t1_iuohby5 wrote
Cut and strip
smallhound44 t1_iumwolk wrote
I'm interested in buying the last pair of scissors ever. Where should I go looking, because I hope to live a fairly long while?
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GoldenMonkeyRedux t1_iumxw8h wrote
These are phenomenal:
https://www.amazon.com/Engineer-PH-55-Tetsuwan-Scissors-GT/dp/B005QTRJA4
Cut through most anything. Have a box-opener stub on one blade. Crimpers, etc.
5spd4wd t1_iun2s3c wrote
I'm still using the Wiss shears my mom had back in the 1950s. I'm pretty sure she used them them to cut fabric from patterns for making clothes.
ElijahLynn t1_iunsjba wrote
Somehow I am having a hardtime believing that plastic handle scissors will last for life. Metal handle scissors will last longer, yah? But maybe not as comfortable?
afvcommander t1_iuqf1ij wrote
How long you want them to last? Fiskars plastic handles are running currently at age of 55 and still no issues.
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DuckAHolics t1_iuogrt5 wrote
Klein 26001 snips or nothing!
scriminal t1_iuolr5n wrote
I love my Klein electricians scissors. https://www.kleintools.com/catalog/electricians-scissors/free-fall-snip-stainless-steel
TheFlaccidKnife t1_iuor31i wrote
I used to be able to steal the Klein electrician scissors from a vending machine at work. Have about 7 or 8 pairs of good scissors laying around.
clickclickbb t1_iupocvl wrote
What kind of vending machine has scissors in them?
TheFlaccidKnife t1_iupoeyw wrote
Fastenal
Kind-Strike t1_iup5do8 wrote
I've had a pair of Nusharp model 335 for about 15 years. I think I've had to sharpen them maybe once. Doesn't appear you can really get the brand here in the states about l about without shipping from overseas but man, they'll be with me for a long time
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B011FK6G3S/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
Electrical is great, but getting into scissors meant for cutting thick fabrics is worth a look at too
WgPuNk t1_iupflim wrote
Can’t believe no one has linked this video
Inprobamur t1_iupfnca wrote
Kevlar shears are also a good option and generally have more ergonomic handles.
hoffyyyy t1_iupph8h wrote
You mean shears? Buy the Klein ones anyway.
SafeGrip2021 t1_iuq423w wrote
Cutco kitchen Shears. Sorted for life.
ShortRound89 t1_iuqk03o wrote
I have a pair of Fiskars ones that i took with me when i moved on my own, at least 25 years old and still good.
neovox t1_iuqttki wrote
Personally, I like my Fiskers telecom technician scissors better.
ransuru OP t1_iusxshu wrote
>Fiskers telecom technician scissors
Those look big in the picture. How big are they ? One of the reasons I went with the Olfa was the small frame which fits in my mobile kit
Lele_ t1_iur2kfq wrote
OLFA gang representin
They make the best box cutters in the world
penlowe t1_iumbff8 wrote
I confess to being a scissor snob. While I do like Olfa rotary blades, the handles on that pair look miserably uncomfortable. I use Olfa blades in a Fiskars handle for the same reason, the Olfa handle sucks to use for more than thirty seconds.
My favorites are Heinkles. They are comfortable to hold, light which makes long term use nice, and murderously sharp. I have kitchen shears (intended for cutting boned poultry), some lovely fabric shears that no one in my family is allowed to touch, embroidery snips & a pair of paper scissors.