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685327593 t1_iu34s8k wrote

Make affirmative action about socioeconomic status instead of skin color then. The moral problem here is that you can't fix the past. You're punishing people who didn't have anything to do with the injustices of the past. That's doubly true for Asians whose ancestors were often ALSO victims of colonialism.

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685327593 t1_iu32z47 wrote

>Keeping in mind that URM are systemically more likely to be in poorer schools with fewer resources

And the solution should be to provide those schools with more resources.

Also, AA might make sense if it were based on socioeconomic status, but it's NOT. It's based purely on race. Poor Asians still get discriminated against and rich black people still get the benefits.

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685327593 t1_iu32qo6 wrote

WAY to many people don't understand this. The reality is that unless you're rich the better the college you go to the LESS you will actually pay. Too many people get scared by the "sticker price", but that's mostly to fleece international students.

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685327593 t1_iu2vhf8 wrote

I think top colleges should admit the most qualified students. Lowering the standards of our top academic institutions isn't the solution to poor parenting and school funding. State colleges are perfectly fine institutions of higher learning and a person attending one has plenty of opportunity to succeed in life. A Harvard education isn't required to get ahead for an intelligent and motivated individual. If politicians want to do something to help poor people get more educated they should change the way schools are funded since the current model of using local property taxes is manifestly unfair. The reality is that by the time a person is 18 its already too late to make up for a learning deficit acquired early in life.

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685327593 t1_iu2oom6 wrote

The "problem" is simply that the kids of the rich are legitimately the smartest kids. There's a considerable "nurture" component to intelligence and higher income kids receive it more than poor kids do. By the time they're 17 kids from high income families are just factually more intelligent and well rounded individuals. And that's not to mention any genetic intelligence advantage they may receive.

PS: While rich kids are nurtured better than poor ones I'd argue it's certainly possible for poor parents to provide a good head start to their kids. We see that even poor Asian kids greatly overperform on academic metrics because their parents stress it a lot at home and focus what resources they have primarily on education.

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685327593 t1_iu2lnoj wrote

Your conclusion is completely unsupported by fact. First off, what we see here is a massive advantage for black and Hispanic individuals. Your argument would therefore suggesr these individuals to be higher income than Asian and white families. That is simply false. Secondly, admission to these schools is completely need blind and they offer extremely good financial aid packages. If your family is low income you will go for free.

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